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BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:20 pm
by Weetabix
I know that the Judge revolver lets you shoot 410 or 45LC through its impressive cylinder.
What would happen if you shot a 45LC through a 410 shotgun?
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:24 pm
by SoupOrMan
Chances are you'd get a .410-shattering kaboom. The pressures for the .410 are much lower than the ones generated by a .45LC cartridge.
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:19 pm
by Fivetoes
Not only is the pressure higher for a 45c, but you are trying to push a .452 slug thru a .410 hole at the higher pressure.
The guns that use both cartridges are designed to use the higher pressure and bore diameter.
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:28 pm
by Weetabix
That sounds like it has disaster written all over it.
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:38 pm
by SoupOrMan
[Channelling Johnnie Cochran] If the lead don't fit, the barrel will split! [/Channelling Johnnie Cochran]
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:50 pm
by mousegun
Stuff a .452 bullet down a .410 bore? Hmmmmmmm. Now try to pass that through the choke.
Since most 410's are full choke, that means that you are trying to stuff a .452 bullet down a .395 choke.
Hopefully you are using dead soft lead because if you aren't, the bullet will most likely not ever make it to the choke.
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:07 pm
by workinwifdakids
you are trying to push a .452 slug thru a .410 hole
That's what
SHE said.
Really, though, I wondered the same thing - so, what did the Judge do to make this idea work?
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:16 pm
by 1911Man
If you cut down the barrel behind the forcing cone and still have more than 18" of length*, you'll get around the issue Mousegun mentions. However, your still trying to force a .452 ball down a .41" hole.
I think that "Bad Idea" is a very accurate description of this. Because shotgun barrels tend to be soft (compared to rifle barrels) they will expand a little before they start to split. You might only get a barrel bulge, if you're lucky.
* If the barrel length is under 18" (18.5" to be safe), it's an NFA device and the ATF will not be nice to you for building such a device.
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:16 pm
by Weetabix
I have to admit I just assumed they were the same size.
I'm guessing the Judge puts a 410 shell in a cylinder sized for a 45LC, and the plastic shell on the 410 expands appropriately to fill the cylinder?
Re: BIT: 45LC through a 410 shotgun
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:25 pm
by SoupOrMan
I think it has to do with the brass of the .410 and the .45 being similar enough to fit.