Overheard At The Gunshop Today
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skb12172
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Overheard At The Gunshop Today
Why take chances, man? A 9mm MIGHT expand, but a .45acp will NEVER shrink!
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Aesop
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Re: Overheard At The Gunshop Today
I am so stealing that.
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Greg
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Re: Overheard At The Gunshop Today
Guys, that's a cliche. Well-worn at that. 
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skb12172
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Re: Overheard At The Gunshop Today
Really??? I can see why. I had never heard it before.
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TheIrishman
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Re: Overheard At The Gunshop Today
Expand or not, the difference between a 9mm hole and a .45 is negligible. The point of initial penetration contracts to stop bleeding. That is proven human physiology. For all the talk of "stopping/knock down power", penetration is foremost.
HANDGUNS SUCK!
They provide ZERO hydrostatic shock. They incapacitate by severing nerves(CNS) or causing enough blood loss(bleeding out/loss of blood pressure) to shut down the bodies hydraulic system. No handgun round is a guarantied stopper. NONE.
A "modern defensive" 9mm round penetrates just as far a .40 or .45. (factory)Defensive rounds are designed to operate within the standards set by the FBI after the Miami incident. 12-18" of penetration in ballistic gel.
This standard accounts for having to pass through bone/clothing on its way towards vital organs/nerves.
For the same size, I can carry near twice the ammunition with 9mm as .45. That gives me twice the time in a fight before I need to "take my gun apart"* and get back to fighting.
* removing the magazine, reinserting a new one and chambering a round, means "taking my gun apart".
If you swear by the "tried and true .357", guess what. Matix and Platt were both hit with them. They still continued to fight for a few minutes before succumbing to blood loss.
Again HANDGUNS SUCK.
HANDGUNS SUCK!
They provide ZERO hydrostatic shock. They incapacitate by severing nerves(CNS) or causing enough blood loss(bleeding out/loss of blood pressure) to shut down the bodies hydraulic system. No handgun round is a guarantied stopper. NONE.
A "modern defensive" 9mm round penetrates just as far a .40 or .45. (factory)Defensive rounds are designed to operate within the standards set by the FBI after the Miami incident. 12-18" of penetration in ballistic gel.
This standard accounts for having to pass through bone/clothing on its way towards vital organs/nerves.
For the same size, I can carry near twice the ammunition with 9mm as .45. That gives me twice the time in a fight before I need to "take my gun apart"* and get back to fighting.
* removing the magazine, reinserting a new one and chambering a round, means "taking my gun apart".
If you swear by the "tried and true .357", guess what. Matix and Platt were both hit with them. They still continued to fight for a few minutes before succumbing to blood loss.
Again HANDGUNS SUCK.
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Aesop
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Re: Overheard At The Gunshop Today
Oh good God man, he was passing on a humorous observation, not opening up the Dead Horse Whacking Contest.
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skb12172
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Re: Overheard At The Gunshop Today
Umm, yeah. Pretty much. What ^ said...
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Greg
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Re: Overheard At The Gunshop Today
What if one of my sins is unoriginality? I'm just saving you from my fate, my sons.Aesop wrote:Oh good God man, he was passing on a humorous observation, not opening up the Dead Horse Whacking Contest.
Go back to your corner and contemplate your sins!
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
Sanity is the process by which you continually adjust your beliefs so they are predictively sound. -esr
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
Sanity is the process by which you continually adjust your beliefs so they are predictively sound. -esr