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AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:59 am
by Netpackrat
So, last Tuesday we had a bit of a wind storm here in Anchorage, with the highest gust being recorded in the 130mph range up on the hillside. Anywhere else, they would probably call that a hurricane or some such, but here in Alaska it gets classified as a wind storm. I was working outside on the ramp at the time, and can vouch for its severity. Now, a fall storm like that isn't at all unusual for this area, but something different about the wind direction of this one ended up killing a bunch of trees. A whole lot of trees, as a matter of fact. Many of which came down on houses, cars, streets, and power lines. Power at our house went out sometime that evening while I was at work, and by the time I was able to head home after 1am, most of the street lights and traffic signals were also out. I actually had to turn around at one point and reroute because the street I normally take into our neighborhood had several trees down, blocking it completely.

We were one of somewhere over 40,000 households without power. As it turned out, on Sunday evening we were among the last to have power restored. I know there are still people without power because I can still hear a generator running not far from here. It may be powering a traffic signal though, now that I think about it. Anyway, it sucked, but it could have sucked a whole lot worse, especially if it had been winter or even later in the fall. I think we would have still been okay, but a lot of people would have had frozen/burst pipes, etc. by the time they got their power back.

Anyway, here are some of the things I managed to do right...

First, several years ago I correctly identified our biggest vulnerability as a reliance on BOTH electrical power AND the natural gas distribution system in order to keep the house heated. My solution was to buy a completely self-contained, stand-alone kerosene heater of 23,000 BTU capacity and plenty of kerosene. This was more than adequate to heat my relatively small house, and represents the best $100 or so I have ever spent on preparedness. I only had to run it 2-3 times a day to keep the house comfortable.

Second, I had a backup means of cooking in the form of a Coleman propane stove and plenty of propane. The stove is almost identical to the one that we use at our cabin, so my wife was already comfortable with using it.

Third, I already cut down the last of the trees on our property last year. It was growing up among the power lines, and I didn't want to risk leaving it there. I still lost power because almost nobody else thought to do the same thing with their trees ahead of time, but at least I didn't wind up with any downed power lines in MY yard. And the worst damage that we suffered was the loss of a few shingles from the roof which I have since replaced. That and the cover for my snow blower went AWOL.

Finally, it was only really a factor during the drive home from work that first night, but I was really thankful for the Hella driving lights that are installed on my Jeep and wired to come on with the high beams. They made the drive home with very few working street lights a whole lot safer, what with all the downed trees and the constant peril of a moose crossing the road in Anchorage. And since there was almost no other traffic, I was actually able to use them.

And other things that I didn't do right...

The big one is that I have procrastinated for years on buying a backup generator. If I'd been ready with one, we wouldn't have had to dick with the kerosene heater at all, and the biggest inconvenience would most likely have been loss of internet service. We're going to bite the bullet once the generator buying hysteria here dies down, and get a decent one and have a transfer switch installed.

I had battery powered lights and extra batteries, but my supply was barely adequate. I will be increasing my stock of these items in a more systematic way once the local store inventories have recovered.

And I made the stupid assumption that the power would be back on in a few hours as usual, and took no action the first night to relocate the food in the fridge and freezer, so we lost some of it.

Some other things worked out okay through no particular planning on my part....

The big one is that the gas fired hot water heater kept working throughout. I had been under the impression that it needed power, so the wiring I saw leading to it must have been a ground. This was a huge factor in keeping the house livable.

Second is that my brother recently moved from right across the road from us to another part of town. He never lost power, and the stuff that we did manage to save from the fridge and freezer is over at his place.

And third was that we had multiple offers from friends and family to go crash at their places that still had power. Since we were able to keep the house heated, and we had hot water for bathing and the ability to cook, I decided that this would be more trouble than it was worth, but it was good to have the option.

Anyway, the biggest hassle of the last week was one which I hadn't really given any thought to in the past: Laundry. We ended up going to friends' houses in order to do our laundry once it became clear that the power was going to be off for a while (and oh by the way borrow their internet connections). If I had even a minimal generator this probably wouldn't have been necessary, since I have a gas dryer and it only needs 115V to run. Saturday night when I was at work, some friends insisted that my wife take their genset since their power had just come on, but since we aren't really set up to use it (hardwired appliances or inaccessible plugs, and no transfer switch for the house), she ended up just using it to watch TV. I'll probably start a separate thread on generators once I am ready to get serious about one.

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:30 pm
by Cybrludite
I know that feel, bro. Thanks to Isaac, I spent about a week camped on a friend's couch. (She had power, but no means of deterring possible looters, so win-win) If the real estate market down here wasn't still distorted from Katrina, I'd be renting (or working out a rent-to-own deal on) a house so I could do the generator thing.

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:59 pm
by Les Nessman
Electric powered automatic safety pilot light.
Yeah I was wondering about that. So how exactly did it work without juice going to the house?

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:33 pm
by Netpackrat
CByrneIV wrote:The pilot light runs continuously, keeping a thermocouple hot. If the pilot goes out, the thermocouple gets cold, and a valve closes. If there is still gas pressure in the line, the valve opens and the electric ignitor attempts to relight the pilot. If there's no gas pressure, it doesn't.
That's good to know, thanks.

Been seeing numerous fluctuations today. I take that as a sign that the distribution system is still shaky, and that they are probably working on making right some of the kludges and stopgap measures that they undoubtedly had to put into place just to get everybody back up.

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:21 am
by Termite
There are, IIRC, still gas hot water heaters that do not have electric ignitors, they are manually lit pilot only.

NPR,

Keep in mind that you probably need less generator than you have in mind; since you have gas hot water and gas dryer, that reduces your power requirement considerably. If your stove is gas, even more so.
Many gas stoves, however, require AC power for the oven to work, because they have glow bars in them as ignitors, which generally consume about 500 watts or therebouts. You can still use the stove top burners; just light them with a match.

As for a gentran switch, it isn't absolutely required, although highly recommended. You can backfeed your house thru a heavy 240VAC outlet. However, it is definitely not ideal, because if you forget to turn off your main breaker, you will backfeed into the entire grid. This will likely shut down your generator on overload, but it can also endanger line repair workers. Transformers work both ways........
The safer method for using a genny without transfer switch is to simply run heavy extention cords.

EDIT: Oh, and when buying generators, you DEFINITELY get what you pay for. A good generator isn't cheap. For portables, I suggest contractor/commercial grade. The 5KW for $699 gennies at Lowes/Home Depot/etc are junk....and noisy.

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:10 am
by Netpackrat
Termite wrote:Keep in mind that you probably need less generator than you have in mind; since you have gas hot water and gas dryer, that reduces your power requirement considerably. If your stove is gas, even more so.
Many gas stoves, however, require AC power for the oven to work, because they have glow bars in them as ignitors, which generally consume about 500 watts or therebouts. You can still use the stove top burners; just light them with a match.
Stove is electric. There is probably an old gas line for a gas stove buried somewhere in the wall behind the stove but I haven't looked for it. Might be a good idea though. Electric stoves are all I have ever used other than for camping. But I am going to go around and figure out all of my wattage requirements and then start another thread on generators, as I mentioned. Mrs. Netpackrat already suggested putting this year's state permanent fund dividends (which are going to be somewhat smaller than previous years unfortunately) toward the generator budget. I was thinking we could probably set a maximum budget of 2 or 3 grand and get something really decent, that we could take with us and use when we get a bigger house.

The real questions are going to be whether or not it's practical to get something that can run my compressor (a large 220V unit of about 4 (honest) horsepower), or will allow for welding capability. I'm not really expecting to be able to run my 175 amp MIG or TIG welders, but basic stick capability could be very useful in an emergency. Miller and Lincoln both make generators with this capability that are within our tentative budget.

Anyway, enough about that because as I said, I am going to assemble more data and start a new thread on the subject later on.

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:19 am
by Termite
Netpackrat wrote:.....basic stick welding capability could be very useful in an emergency. Miller and Lincoln both make generators with this capability that are within our tentative budget.
Miller Bobcats are nice. Grandpa Termite has one.

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:27 am
by HTRN
Termite wrote:There are, IIRC, still gas hot water heaters that do not have electric ignitors, they are manually lit pilot only.
That's all I've ever had - just put a new one in not so long ago..

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:17 am
by blackeagle603
There's always PTO generator options (3pt or receiver hitch mounted) for those with a tractor (or suitably equipped vintage 4x4).

Re: AAR- Windstorm + 5 Day Power Outage

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:36 am
by Netpackrat
blackeagle603 wrote:There's always PTO generator options (3pt or receiver hitch mounted) for those with a tractor (or suitably equipped vintage 4x4).
Yeah, the CJ-5 in the backyard has a PTO port on the transfer case. But it's going to be years before I get to it, if ever.