WA state reciprocity

[Netpackrat]

First off, if any of you find yourself in Washington state for whatever reason, I highly encourage you to apply for a non-resident CCW permit while you are there. It's extremely easy to do, there's no required class, and you can apply at any local law enforcement office. You make an appointment, go in, fill out some paperwork, get fingerprinted, and pay your $52.50. I was there for less than 45 minutes and most of that time was spent waiting for my turn to be called. It will hopefully be arriving by mail in 60 days or less (unfortunately, you have to apply in person).

Interesting bit of trivia; before making my trip I checked to see if they would take my AK permit and they do not, which was not a surprise, because they never did before, either. What did puzzle me is that on the state website, the listed reason for not accepting AK permits is "No CPL requirement to carry concealed." I found that odd, because while we don't require a permit, we still recognize all other state permits specifically by statute, to maintain reciprocity with those states that require formal recognition of their permits. And it turns out that's not the actual reason.

When I went in to apply, they gave me a handout of WA weapons laws that gave a better explanation. Turns out, it doesn't say anything about a state's permit needing to be on some list in order to qualify; that's just published as a courtesy. There are 3 requirements for an out of state CCW permit to be recognized in WA. The first is that the state can't issue CCW permits to persons under the age of 21. The second is that a fingerprint based background check must be conducted prior to issuance, and the third is that the applicant's mental health history must be checked. The last requirement turns out to be the snag.

A phone call to the Alaska State Troopers div. of Permits and Licensing reveals that they are prohibited by law from looking at mental health history as part of issuing a CCW permit. So, that is the real reason an AK permit is not valid in WA and that is unlikely to change. And while I'm not really sure I'm enthusiastic about the idea of AST being able to look at mental health history as part of the background check for a permit, I had hoped to be able to single handedly establish reciprocity between the two states by making a few phone calls. Oh well.

[Jered]

The exact wording of the law is "up to sixty days."

(1) The chief of police of a municipality or the sheriff of a county shall within thirty days after the filing of an application of any person, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol concealed on his or her person within this state for five years from date of issue, for the purposes of protection or while engaged in business, sport, or while traveling. However, if the applicant does not have a valid permanent Washington driver's license or Washington state identification card or has not been a resident of the state for the previous consecutive ninety days, the issuing authority shall have up to sixty days after the filing of the application to issue a license. The issuing authority shall not refuse to accept completed applications for concealed pistol licenses during regular business hours.

And I'm jealous because you can do it anywhere. I have to go to the Sheriff's Office.

[308Mike]

AND Dumbshit Commireornia does NOT recognize ANY other state's CCW's (except when the feds tell them to, via retired LEOs and federal law). Bottom line, CA's attitude is absolute BULLSHIT, and that's just ONE MORE reason the state is pushing intelligent & wealthy people out of its borders. They don't seem to realize that money is mobile, housing prices fluctuate, and you can't TAX YOURSELF INTO PROSPERITY!!!

THIS << Pointing towards California on a map of the USA >> is what you get when you let Demoncraps be in charge for a few election cycles. DON'T LET YOURSELF BE LIKE CALIFORNIA!!!

VOTE FREEDOM!!

[blackeagle603]

re: CA
:jacked:
You see Senator Yee introduced legislation to ban bullet buttons?

When I saw the news I was absolutely horrified,” said State Senator Leland Yee, referring to a CBS5 report about the so-called bullet button.

From San Fran... Shocka!

"Leland Yee (Chinese: 余胤良; pinyin: Yú Yìnliáng, born November 20, 1948) is a California State Senator in District 8 which represents the western half of San Francisco and most of San Mateo County. Prior to becoming state senator, Yee was a California State Assemblyman, Supervisor of San Francisco's Sunset District, and was a member and President of the San Francisco School Board. In 2004 Yee became the first Asian American to be appointed Speaker pro Tempore, making him the second highest ranking Democrat of the California State Assembly."

[randy]

I was absolutely horrified

Boy seems to have low threshold of scared.

Another case of "Loophole: a perfectly legal activity or device of which I do not approve"

[NVGdude]

AND Dumbshit Commireornia does NOT recognize ANY other state's CCW's

VOTE FREEDOM!!

That's ok Mike. When you visit here we will honor your CA permit anyway.

[Flintlock Tom]

re: CA
:jacked:
You see Senator Yee introduced legislation to ban bullet buttons?

When I saw the news I was absolutely horrified,” said State Senator Leland Yee, referring to a CBS5 report about the so-called bullet button.

From San Fran... Shocka!

"Leland Yee (Chinese: 余胤良; pinyin: Yú Yìnliáng, born November 20, 1948) is a California State Senator in District 8 which represents the western half of San Francisco and most of San Mateo County. Prior to becoming state senator, Yee was a California State Assemblyman, Supervisor of San Francisco's Sunset District, and was a member and President of the San Francisco School Board. In 2004 Yee became the first Asian American to be appointed Speaker pro Tempore, making him the second highest ranking Democrat of the California State Assembly."

A careful reading of the Senator's legislation will reveal that it does just the opposite. If it passes it will make it illegal to own a normal mag release or any "kit" which defeats the Bullet Button. So, nothing changes except that we will have to take those normal mag releases that we took off our AR15s and turn them in to the nearest police station.

[Rumpshot]

Tom, it is okay. You can store your mag releases at my house. It is NOT in the land of the no longer free. And will be readily available when you come over for Rumpshot's Revenge!

[Netpackrat]

My new permit arrived in the mail yesterday. MUCH sooner than I expected it to. Now I need to get it laminated because it is just plain paper.