I'd say pretty poor shot grouping, not a one laying there for the coroner to ID.
Wasted bullets in the windshield instead of the driver.
AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
Wow really needed a 12 gauge, 00 buck shot, for this problem, who knows waht the situations with the home owner was
1) Glad he was able to stop the bad guys .
2) too bad he didn't have a 12 gauge.
3)hope the next has a 12 gauge or a auto loader rifle , M1A , etc .
1) Glad he was able to stop the bad guys .
2) too bad he didn't have a 12 gauge.
3)hope the next has a 12 gauge or a auto loader rifle , M1A , etc .
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
I REALLY need to stop thinking about pre-positioning my short barreled 870 and M-1 Carbine around the house and just DO it.
So many choices and uncertainty about scenarios and safety vs accessibility...
So many choices and uncertainty about scenarios and safety vs accessibility...
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
blackeagle603 wrote:I REALLY need to stop thinking about pre-positioning my short barreled 870 and M-1 Carbine around the house and just DO it.
So many choices and uncertainty about scenarios and safety vs accessibility...
I have grand kids , so I have to watch what I put where and what stage of lock down.
I have been thinking about a locking rack up high , let us know if you find something that works.
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
Ya' gotta' wonder about what's going on that he'd have four armed men drive up INTO HIS DRIVEWAY (of his well monitored and alarmed house) and try to take him down in a rapid take-over invasion of his home.
There's a LOT more to this story than what we've seen and read.
There's a LOT more to this story than what we've seen and read.
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
+1 Mike.
A gang hit or drug rip-off.
A gang hit or drug rip-off.
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
guy local to me sells police shotgun racks for cars... with a simple bit of wiring, the locking mechanism can be wired to house wiring... i was thinking about mounting one over my closed too so that i could have a shotgun ready to go at the flip of a switch.arctictom wrote:blackeagle603 wrote:I REALLY need to stop thinking about pre-positioning my short barreled 870 and M-1 Carbine around the house and just DO it.
So many choices and uncertainty about scenarios and safety vs accessibility...
I have grand kids , so I have to watch what I put where and what stage of lock down.
I have been thinking about a locking rack up high , let us know if you find something that works.
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
Saw a news piece this morning looks like the AZ police have established some connection with the home owner and the guys breaking in, they were not specific as to the connection.308Mike wrote:Ya' gotta' wonder about what's going on that he'd have four armed men drive up INTO HIS DRIVEWAY (of his well monitored and alarmed house) and try to take him down in a rapid take-over invasion of his home.
There's a LOT more to this story than what we've seen and read.
mekender , lets us know how the shot gun racks work out.
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
A little personal experience for ya': Make SURE you have some form of backup release for when the power is out. I don't care if it's watch batteries, AAA's, CR123's, or fermenting potatoes that are wired to it, but make DAMN sure you CAN get that thing out if there's no power. Also, some of the release mechanisms can be quite picky and hangup if you're already applying tension on the clamshell when you hit the release button. If you get to try them out, think panic-mode and trying to open when you're fumbling around. You don't want it too hard to open but not too sloppy either.mekender wrote:guy local to me sells police shotgun racks for cars... with a simple bit of wiring, the locking mechanism can be wired to house wiring... i was thinking about mounting one over my closed too so that i could have a shotgun ready to go at the flip of a switch.arctictom wrote:blackeagle603 wrote:I REALLY need to stop thinking about pre-positioning my short barreled 870 and M-1 Carbine around the house and just DO it.
So many choices and uncertainty about scenarios and safety vs accessibility...
I have grand kids , so I have to watch what I put where and what stage of lock down.
I have been thinking about a locking rack up high , let us know if you find something that works.
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
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Re: AZ: man defends his home from 4 armed invaders
the more I think about it my challenge isn't so much "where is best and how to secure." It's the trade off between accessibility and decor/design sensibilities.
If it was just up to me I'd have old fashioned antler and or horseshoe racks above various doors and also the fireplace mantle.
If it was just up to me I'd have old fashioned antler and or horseshoe racks above various doors and also the fireplace mantle.
"The Guncounter: More fun than a barrel of tattooed knife-fighting chain-smoking monkey butlers with drinking problems and excessive gambling debts!"
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic;" Justice Story
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic;" Justice Story