Molester caught in the act and killed(Update)

[Aglifter]

In that case, it was EPA agents who were trespassing on a ranch, and left some gates open, and some pure-bred cattle got mixed up.

The Feds wanted it to claim that the EPA agent was immune from state trespassing law.

[cu74]

In that case, it was EPA agents who were trespassing on a ranch, and left some gates open, and some pure-bred cattle got mixed up.

The Feds wanted it to claim that the EPA agent was immune from state trespassing law.

Thanks for the information. It was enough to let me do a search and find out that it was Sheriff Mattis of Bighorn County, Wyoming. Seems it was a longer ago than I remembered (this Oldtimer's Disease is a bitch) - sometime in 1998 or 1999. A quote - unconfirmed - posted on The Firing Line in 2000 from Sheriff Mattis:

"I am reacting to the actions of federal employees who have attempted to deprive citizens of my county of their privacy, their liberty, and their property without regard to constitutional safeguards. I hope that more sheriffs all across America will join us in protecting their citizens from the illegal activities of the IRS, EPA, BATF, FBI, or any other federal agency that is operating outside the confines of constitutional law. Employees of the IRS and the EPA are no longer welcome in Bighorn County unless they intend to operate in conformance to constitutional law."

[308Mike]

In that case, it was EPA agents who were trespassing on a ranch, and left some gates open, and some pure-bred cattle got mixed up.

The Feds wanted it to claim that the EPA agent was immune from state trespassing law.

Thanks for the information. It was enough to let me do a search and find out that it was Sheriff Mattis of Bighorn County, Wyoming. Seems it was a longer ago than I remembered (this Oldtimer's Disease is a bitch) - sometime in 1998 or 1999. A quote - unconfirmed - posted on The Firing Line in 2000 from Sheriff Mattis:

"I am reacting to the actions of federal employees who have attempted to deprive citizens of my county of their privacy, their liberty, and their property without regard to constitutional safeguards. I hope that more sheriffs all across America will join us in protecting their citizens from the illegal activities of the IRS, EPA, BATF, FBI, or any other federal agency that is operating outside the confines of constitutional law. Employees of the IRS and the EPA are no longer welcome in Bighorn County unless they intend to operate in conformance to constitutional law."

Sure sounds like a DAMNED GOOD MAN to me, especially since he's an elected official/politician. Now THAT'S a Sheriff I would be PROUD to vote FOR and simply NOT VOTE AGAINST!

I recall early in my college days and attending Administration of Justice classes, that the way our country was set up (unlike Mexico and other countries) was that the LOCAL authorities were supposed to have all the power and it went downhill from there with the feds having the LEAST amount of power, which was strictly defined in the Constitution. The level of power was defined thusly: Local authorities, then State authorities, then the feds, who held the least amount of power and authority in our communities. For the most part, the feds had NO BUSINESS getting involved in local issues unless it crossed state lines.

Gee, look at just how far THAT idea has been twisted!!!

When I went through the police academy starting in 1980, it wasn't unheard of to have feds tiptoeing around local investigations or they'd get their butts handed to them in a sling and told to GTFO of here - AND DON'T COME BACK UNLESS YOU'RE INVITED!! Of course you have to remember their crime lab was also shiite, so was their training and technology overall. There's a reason we called the FBI agents "Fumbling, Bumbling, IDIOTS!!" These morons screwed up so many crime scenes we couldn't keep track of all the shiite they screwed up and WE had to fix!!!!

Personal experience: Even as recent as 1997, I'd seen feds STILL screwing up crime scenes at bank robberies, neglecting to get witness statements IMMEDIATELY after the crime had been committed, failing to separate witnesses, etc., etc.

With as quickly as federal agencies move on much of this stuff, PERHAPS BY NOW they might have made SOME changes to their SOPs, but I wouldn't count on it. And if someone decides to take the initiative and try and encourage change from below, you can FORGET ABOUT IT. They don't get a little "talking to", they get STOMPED ON as each bureaucrat decides to do SOMETHING to ensure the "troublemaker" don't do ANYTHING like that EVER AGAIN and make them look bad.

Granted, just like in ANY organization, you'll have your extremely competent folks silently doing the job and carrying the weight of that whole division ALMOST by themselves (and a few other people - especially support folks). To them, it's NOT "just a job."

Time for me to cook some food for my wife, so I'm stopping here, but I think you get the idea.

It really irks me that our military is paid so poorly, especially since the vast MAJORITY of them are more competent than their AVERAGE civilian counterparts who routinely make DOUBLE of our military folks, and our military folks usually do more with less than the rest (after all, they can't unionize - ), and STILL GET THE JOB DONE.

BBL, my grill is ready..............

[Netpackrat]

IIRC, the sheriff, as an officer of the law who was elected by The People, is the top law dog in his county. As such, he can arrest state and/or federal LEOs if they cross his line in the sand. As I imperfectly recall, a sheriff in Wyoming or Montana stopped an FBI investigation and ran the agents out of his county a few years back.

One of the reasons the feds cause so many problems up here, is because Alaska does not have elected sheriffs (or counties), so there is no recourse beyond the feds' own court system. Which is to say, there is normally no effective recourse at all. I'm pretty sure that was the intention.