Breaking Bad News At Work

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Guess I really didn't make my point...

Dear Reader clearly learned his "people skills" in "the chigago machine" -- it would appear he got his "business-sense" from the .com boom...

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The tradeoff? I worked 16+ hours a day. Usually 10-12 hours in the office and another 4-6 hours at home, six or seven days a week.
I don't think I could do it. Not for all the gold in the world.
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Evyl Robot wrote:
The tradeoff? I worked 16+ hours a day. Usually 10-12 hours in the office and another 4-6 hours at home, six or seven days a week.
I don't think I could do it. Not for all the gold in the world.
I lot of people do. They usually get paid for it too. Those are "the rich" that certain people think should pay more taxes, since they dont pay their "fair share". Most of the management in the companies I've worked for are on duty more or less 24/7, even when they're on vacation. They dont get any overtime for the extra work they put in, they get the same pay regardless of time. But that's the amount of work it takes to get the job done and make the companies run so lots of other people have jobs.
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Yeah, TMK most small businessmen, and execs above a certain level, are pretty much working, in some fashion, (at least on call) whenever they're awake - and probably have an emergency contact number that rings by the bed. (Pretty easy these days w. cell phones.)
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I lot of people do. They usually get paid for it too. Those are "the rich" that certain people think should pay more taxes, since they dont pay their "fair share". Most of the management in the companies I've worked for are on duty more or less 24/7, even when they're on vacation. They dont get any overtime for the extra work they put in, they get the same pay regardless of time. But that's the amount of work it takes to get the job done and make the companies run so lots of other people have jobs.
I fully understand that. I personally just don't want to waste all of my prime living time by selling it to an employer - i.e. I need some Evyl Robot time. My last employer was very respectful of personal time, but they didn't pay nearly as well as others would for the same work. It was somewhere in there that I realized that I'm just not cut out to take a normal path. I need to be a business owner. At my age, I should do it. If you can successfully start a business in a recession, you're going to succeed. And, current circumstances pointed me that way. A sign from God perhaps? I don't take hints from Him very well. Sometimes when He closes a door, He shoves you out the window or something like that.
at least 75% of the meetings are useless bullshit
If your meeting experiences are anything like mine have ever been, you are being way to kind to them by allowing them up to 25% there. :lol:
Basically, I work a 60 hour week.

In exchange, they pay me a shitload, I work from home,...
That right there changes the game to me. In my cumulative career, I've had a 1-hour one-way commute more often than not. No commute and an extra 20 hours would nearly make for a net wash. The added pay and far less wear and tear on the vehicle (not to mention the risk of rush hour accidents) makes for a really sweet deal. Recently, working for myself, I've been putting in ten to eleven hours a day. Then, your icing on the cake:
I get great benefits, I get 25 vacation days a year base with an extra 5 days every five years up to 40 days max (plus 5 days rollover), 11 company holidays, and two floating holidays, a 401k with 6% matching, profit participation (annual stock grants, and annual option grants), and up to a 22.5% annual bonus.
I know that my professional options are limited because of that whole 'some college' demographic. I'm not going to be in a jealous rage because anybody else has stuff that I don't. :mrgreen: It's my fault that I didn't finish my degree, and the fact of the matter is that if I'm going to be successful, I'm going to have to make my own way. I realize this. My brother and I had a discussion about my aunt who was in the process of having a house built. My house would go inside of hers several times over. They rolled out all the stops. It's got insulation that I've never seen before, lots of stone in the structure and finish, it's really over-the-top beautiful. I heard what sounded almost like resent in some comments about the new house and had to respond with rebuke. She's a radiologist. By the time she got to the point that she could actually settle down, she'd been through so much school and internship. She's earned her current life by living in a Volkswagen beetle so she could go to med school.

At the moment, I'm just looking forward to the day that I've got enough cash flow that I can give myself a paycheck! FWIW, it's going to happen sooner than I originally expected. This is mostly due to the excellent quality of people in the online gunny community. I never cease to be amazed at what a wonderful lot of people this is. On that note, I'm going to shut up before I completely jack this thread.
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Evyl Robot wrote:
Basically, I work a 60 hour week.

In exchange, they pay me a shitload, I work from home,...
That right there changes the game to me. In my cumulative career, I've had a 1-hour one-way commute more often than not. No commute and an extra 20 hours would nearly make for a net wash. The added pay and far less wear and tear on the vehicle (not to mention the risk of rush hour accidents) makes for a really sweet deal. Recently, working for myself, I've been putting in ten to eleven hours a day.
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Cybrludite wrote:Just remember that unless you've got unique skills, if your job can be done from home, it can also be done from Mumbai for about a quarter of your pay.
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