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Navy problems
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:18 pm
by Vonz90
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/07/ ... struction/
Good take, I actually think it similar in all the services with the AF being the worst, but gotta start someplace.
Re: Navy problems
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:17 am
by randy
I think the USAF probably doesn't recognize it as much in the tactical air forces as they have been involved in continuous combat operations since January of 1991, but none of it against forces that could effectively defend against them. (even in DESERT STORM we effectively had a cooperating enemy in the Iraqi defensive/avoidance mindset, as opposed, for instance, the the NVN aggressive air and ground based defense strategy).
The nuclear forces certainly show the slippage of standards and operational proficiency since SAC was dis-established.
As for the Deming inspired Efficiency fetish: Efficiency don't mean shit if you're not effective. Be able to do you bloody job effectively first, then worry about how to make it "efficient".
Re: Navy problems
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:32 pm
by Precision
randy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:17 am
I think the USAF probably doesn't recognize it as much in the tactical air forces as they have been involved in continuous combat operations since January of 1991, but none of it against forces that could effectively defend against them. (even in DESERT STORM we effectively had a cooperating enemy in the Iraqi defensive/avoidance mindset, as opposed, for instance, the the NVN aggressive air and ground based defense strategy).
The nuclear forces certainly show the slippage of standards and operational proficiency since SAC was dis-established.
As for the Deming inspired Efficiency fetish: Efficiency don't mean shit if you're not effective. Be able to do you bloody job effectively first, then worry about how to make it "efficient".
yup a very efficient 1000 lumen light bulb is damn near worthless at lighting up an entire mall.