USS Ranger CV-4 From World of Warships

[Jericho941]

Been playing this allot as of late, except for the past few days where I have had some other things that needed doing. I managed to get a Colorado game with over 2600 base xp, which led to me unlocking the North Carolina, which I have used all of three times at this point. There is an issue at the higher tiers in that the ships cost so much to repair no one wants to risk them, which results in a very long range and cautious play style. This is somewhat disappointing, but inevitable given the games design.

"Repair costs" in WT and World of ____ always bugged me. Either reduce the end-of-match awards or stop pretending imaginary machines need maintenance.

[Kommander]

I am working on the Pensacola as well and for the life of me can not figure out why it's in the game. They only made two of them and it was considered a rather poor design. The USN quickly moved onto to the similar but improved Northampton, the class of ship which should be in the game.

"Repair costs" in WT and World of ____ always bugged me. Either reduce the end-of-match awards or stop pretending imaginary machines need maintenance.

The purpose of the repair costs early on is to punish poor playing. Later they are used to force players with higher tier ships to play the lower tiers in order to fund their high tier ships. This is to ensure people working their way through the mid tiers have someone to fight. This is something that they copier over from World of Tanks. However there is an issue. Unlike in World of Tanks, where there are plenty of famous mid tier tanks such as the Sherman and Tiger that people will want to play, almost all the famous ships in World of Ships are near the end of the lines. No one plays the game to get an Omaha or Colorado, they play it to get an Essex or Iowa. This may cause long term problems for the game.

[mekender]

I suspect that some of the more famous ships will be brought in as premiums... Also there are rumors that the cruiser line will be split into a light and heavy line which makes a lot of sense. The Pensacola will probably be dropped a tier if that happens.

I have started to realize a few things about the Pensacola... First, if you are getting hit, you are doing it wrong... Secondly if you are broadsides to an enemy, you are doing it wrong...

I think the purpose of the Pensacola is to teach you how to play the higher level cruisers, they are drastically different in play style from the earlier tiers.

[mekender]

Later they are used to force players with higher tier ships to play the lower tiers in order to fund their high tier ships. This is to ensure people working their way through the mid tiers have someone to fight. This is something that they copier over from World of Tanks.

This is probably a good bit of truth, and it makes a lot of sense... If you look at other multiplayer games, most notably the MMOs, once they have been out long enough, the only players are endgame.

[Jericho941]

The purpose of the repair costs early on is to punish poor playing.

And that's why it's stupid. Losing is supposed to be punishment for poor playing. You don't carry it over unless you do something specifically wrong, like hurt your teammates.

It also disincentivizes trying something new. Battleships are absolute garbage and ridiculously dependent on being backed up by a good team to get more than a consolation prize in terms of points out of them. If I'm going to maybe hit ships 5-10 times before the torpedo spam does me in, and I'm to be penalized for this, I simply won't play battleships. Especially considering I was about to give up on them already. (Well, I said I was done, but I haven't given all the way up yet.)

Later they are used to force players with higher tier ships to play the lower tiers in order to fund their high tier ships. This is to ensure people working their way through the mid tiers have someone to fight. This is something that they copier over from World of Tanks. However there is an issue. Unlike in World of Tanks, where there are plenty of famous mid tier tanks such as the Sherman and Tiger that people will want to play, almost all the famous ships in World of Ships are near the end of the lines. No one plays the game to get an Omaha or Colorado, they play it to get an Essex or Iowa. This may cause long term problems for the game.

Yeah. I have no interest in anything before the North Carolina when it comes to BBs. I don't think I'll even stick with it to get that far, I've hated ever BB I've unlocked, and I've got the New York. I sell every one I have as soon as I can. I've given up on any entertainment value whatsoever from aircraft carriers. So the only "content" they'll get out of me is destroyer and maybe cruiser action.

Basically, this seems to be how the game breaks down:

DDs: High risk, high reward ships. You might die embarrasingly quick, or you might take down a couple capital ships with you. You never know! Fun.
BBs: Low-risk, no reward. "Low risk" doesn't mean you're not going to die. You will. It's just going to be slow and painful. For masochists and drunk people who need a game that's played in slow motion.
CAs: Not terribly good at anything, they're basically bigger destroyers for beating up on destroyers, and irritating BBs by setting them on fire. AA-dedicated cruisers have a job even more boring than battleships: sit next to battleships and collect a pittance from all the airplane spam sure to head their way.
CVs: Do you hate fun? People have compared playing aircraft carriers to RTS games. I feel that this is a misnomer. The only similarity is that you click on enemies. There is no strategy here whatsoever. Or tactics. Send out planes. Receive planes. Rinse. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat. Until a higher-tier CV boots you out, or the ravenous DD wolves pounce on you.

[mekender]

DDs: High risk, high reward ships. You might die embarrassingly quick, or you might take down a couple capital ships with you. You never know! Fun.[/quote]

I pretty much agree... I enjoy them but not enough to really stick with them more than 2 or 3 matches at a time. They are the only ships that really get my heart beating though...

BBs: Low-risk, no reward. "Low risk" doesn't mean you're not going to die. You will. It's just going to be slow and painful. For masochists and drunk people who need a game that's played in slow motion.

I worked up to the Colorado in closed beta and am up to the Wyoming now...I love the raw power of being able to one shot most ships though. Yes they are slow but properly played they are the floating fortresses they are supposed to be. Use AP, angle your armor so you do not take broadsides and be careful about when and how you use your consumables. My biggest frustration is that often times by the time I see a torpedo spread, it is far too late to actually do anything about it.

CAs: Not terribly good at anything, they're basically bigger destroyers for beating up on destroyers, and irritating BBs by setting them on fire. AA-dedicated cruisers have a job even more boring than battleships: sit next to battleships and collect a pittance from all the airplane spam sure to head their way.

I tend to disagree here... My best games are in a CA and that includes everything from the Erie up to the Pensacola (which I just started on and am starting to like now that I have a handle on it). Some of the mid tier ships are the best ships in the game at that tier, the Omaha and Cleveland are monsters if you know how to play them. Sticking with the fleet is a good idea once you get into tier 4 and above... Letting BBs soak hits while you rain fire down on the enemy is always a good time and if the enemy cruisers get close enough, a proper AP volley to their broadsides will one shot them in a lot of cases.

CVs: Do you hate fun? People have compared playing aircraft carriers to RTS games. I feel that this is a misnomer. The only similarity is that you click on enemies. There is no strategy here whatsoever. Or tactics. Send out planes. Receive planes. Rinse. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat. Until a higher-tier CV boots you out, or the ravenous DD wolves pounce on you.

I only have a few matches in carriers, the biggest problem is matchmaking related in my opinion. A tier 4 versus a tier 5 is just outclassed... The tier 5 will rip apart the planes of the 4 with no real recourse. And that misbalance carries on all the way up to tier 10. Add in that the playing mechanics of actually using one are rather horrible IMO... Controlling torpedo planes is an exercise in frustration. Half the time you try to do a torpedo spread, you cant because the aiming UI won't let you pick the angle you want, the other half is pure luck, I really do not know how some of the good players manage. For me it has been not worth playing them...

[Kommander]

I've never played a carrier, so I cant really speak about personal experience with those. I can tell you that at the New Mexico the BB game changes. With proper angling you become a cruisers nightmare and the DDs become less effective because the higher tier maps give them less places to hide. One of the key things with deal with torps is to ALWAYS be zig zaging, even if you can't see the DD, and to stay away from islands. This will completely spoil their torp spread. Give the NM a try, remember to angle and zig zag, and remember in the next patch coming on the 27th IJN carriers are getting a bit of a nerf and carrier match making is being revamped to carrier numbers and tier should almost always be equal.

[mekender]

This seems to be a pretty good summary

https://youtu.be/byAZsBIu6Wc

[Jered]

That tier 8 Japanese premium cruiser seems to be a pretty good credit generator.

In two battles, I think I made around 500,000. One was a victory and one was a draw. Burning ships with HE shells is endlessly amusing.

I also just now figured out that you can swap out the sonar search for an AA barrage.

[mekender]

That tier 8 Japanese premium cruiser seems to be a pretty good credit generator.

In two battles, I think I made around 500,000. One was a victory and one was a draw. Burning ships with HE shells is endlessly amusing.

I also just now figured out that you can swap out the sonar search for an AA barrage.

The Tier 5 Russian one is even better IMO because it rarely gets matched up against anything higher tier.

And yea, finding the AA barrage took me a while too.