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What will be interesting to see is how the media and the Obama administration manage to blame Bush for this.
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There are reports that the Chinese military are building up on the NK border. Friend or foe?
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From my cynical view a war and the elimination of North Korea's government would probably help them. What a bozo , shit.
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Jered wrote:
mekender wrote:I do find it funny that we have basically seen their dick wagging and raised them...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/01 ... ea-drills/
Our dick is bigger, better trained, and better fed.
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Jericho941 wrote:
Jered wrote:
mekender wrote:I do find it funny that we have basically seen their dick wagging and raised them...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/01 ... ea-drills/
Our dick is bigger, better trained, and better fed.
Basically. (NSFW)
And can fly from Missouri to anywhere in the world and drop explosives on a target the size of a quarter...
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randy wrote:In general, Paw Paw and I are, I think, on the same page on this, with one minor nit:
PawPaw wrote:, put a smart bomb in the mouth of every hole to screw up the rail system.
Based on direct analysis of the problem I was personally involved in, this is tactically and logistically a very difficult thing to accomplish.

Even assuming we've localized every entrance, (a big IF until they actually use one), and we've suppressed air defenses in the area well enough (could take days), then getting a hit on one of those entrances does not get a guaranteed closure. And any closure would usually be measured in minutes or hours for them to get opened up. We've got lots of targets in the DPRK that need PGMs to do any good and not all that many PGMs available at any particular time.

Drones might help, especially in clearing attack corridors, but no current drone I'm aware of carries anything big enough to destroy one of these entrances. A Hellfire or MK-82 isn't going to do anything unless they catch a piece in the open to fire. IOW back to about the same level of effectiveness as using counter-battery fire to suppress them.
Two possibilities ya'll haven't mentioned:

1) GMLRs - GPS guided rockets fired by the MLRS. Avoids the ADA problem, as long as the Nork army hasn't pushed friendlies too far south.

2) FASCAM - artillery delivered scatterable mines. I assume we still have them in inventory, especially in Korea. Drop some of those on the firing points, and when they roll the guns out, Boom. Of course, they're probably already planned to fire on every road chokepoint south of the DMZ as soon as friendly troops have been pushed south of that particular point. (They can also be dropped by aircraft, but trying to fly a Blackhawk over the area would be even more suicidal than a C-130.)
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Dropped the son&heir at the pier today with 2 seabags, ruck, gas mask and a garment full of Chucks. Yeah, I miss the days humping all my personal and flight gear up the brow -- not. His kevlar already aboard in a triwall. Chucky V, Rainbow Reagan and Nimitz all in a line. Hopefully gets secured for dinner together over there this evening.

Just in time for summer fun drive by of Korea enroute to the I/O. He's designated recovery team member if any of their birds have to bingo to Kandahar.
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308Mike wrote:
Dinochrome wrote:Targets on the west coast could be Seattle in Puget Sound, San Francisco between the bridges, Long Beach inside the breakwater, and San Diego under the Alameda bridge.
I'm assuming you meant the Coronado Bay Bridge? Alameda is up at San Fran.
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Windy Wilson wrote:
308Mike wrote:
Dinochrome wrote:Targets on the west coast could be Seattle in Puget Sound, San Francisco between the bridges, Long Beach inside the breakwater, and San Diego under the Alameda bridge.
I'm assuming you meant the Coronado Bay Bridge? Alameda is up at San Fran.
Ah, but you forget the effects of plate techtonics! :lol: :lol:
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