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The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:05 pm
by toad
I was reading a preface on a new to me translation of "The Art of War."
The new guys would take over a Kingdom promising to restore good government and things would improve then as the decades passed by the "new" government would become corrupt and stupid and the cycle would repeat. One kingdom was described as a real fly by night in that it only lasted a couple of hundred years.
I suspect that the cycle of change has picked up speed due to communication as much as anything. First came the printing press and literacy spread. The the telegraph, telephone.
Then broadcast communication. Then interactive radio, radio + telephone call ins.
Now you don't need a printing press, you have the Internet and computers.
It is hard not to notice who desperately wants to get control of the Web. It is the left more than anyone.
So, just how deep and why are the fears of the left so deep about unfettered communication.
Comments, Opinions, or Lord help us, some facts??
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:40 pm
by Drone 7 of lots more
The short version: they don't want a discussion, they want to be obeyed.
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:46 pm
by arctictom
O boy this is a good one , almost as entertaining as fiat money.
starting with this from Larry Elder
http://townhall.com/columnists/LarryEld ... als?page=1
and polling done on liberals and conservatives looks like the more liberal a person is the less likely they are to consider other opinions and view points.
The conclusion can be drawn that the toleration of other opinions and view points as their views become more and more liberal, just ends and their conclusions seem to be that the others are simply uninformed/evil/stupid and need to be stopped.
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:00 am
by clyde621
Just remember "I won" "my ideas trump yours"

Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:06 am
by martini
well, anyone in power who will act in a manner that might upset his constituents rightly fears mass communication. Our left wants to control all com and shut down the rest b/c they know that what they want is not what the majority of Americans want and that the only way to get to the socialist promised land they see is for them to remain in power and hoodwink most of the electorate. Thus they rightly fear mass communication they don't control for examples see the fairness doctrine and talk radio as well as the internet.
Just as a thought exercise, think about WWII Germany and consider if they had had the internet then. If all of Germany knew without a doubt what Hitler was doing in the concentration camps and how he crushed dissent, would he have stayed in power?
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:18 am
by sam
martini wrote:
Just as a thought exercise, think about WWII Germany and consider if they had had the internet then. If all of Germany knew without a doubt what Hitler was doing in the concentration camps and how he crushed dissent, would he have stayed in power?
Ask the ChiComs.
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:56 am
by Jered
martini wrote:
Just as a thought exercise, think about WWII Germany and consider if they had had the internet then. If all of Germany knew without a doubt what Hitler was doing in the concentration camps and how he crushed dissent, would he have stayed in power?
Basically, the government just has to become good at stifling dissent and and taking away folks means to overthrow the government, such as by stopping elections and banning guns.
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:26 am
by cu74
Ergo, the Fairness Doctrine, which was abolished by the FCC in 1987 but now is being pushed by the Evil Party. Google it..........
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:42 am
by toad
Will better communications cut both ways? How potent will the opposition be as word spreads on the net that the government Left seeks to control it. Will the "independent" left think about how the right or worse yet heretics in the left could use a fairness doctrine to shut them down?
Also can the government left afford to kill a source money for wages and taxes in this economic environment?
Re: The effect of communication on the fall of countries.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:55 am
by cu74
toad wrote:....Will the "independent" left think about how the right or worse yet heretics in the left could use a fairness doctrine to shut them down?
I'm thinking there isn't a significant "Independent Left" to make a difference in this fight. The hard core Left, (and the heretics in the Left), will paint them as being in the "Right" and steamroll over them in their quest for total control. Hope I'm wrong.........