EU Energy Dependence

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EU Energy Dependence

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Not too many surprises here: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visual ... ependency/

The one thing that surprises me, is that for all the ESG "sturm and drang" the EU has done over the past 2 decades, like solar farms in Spain, wind farms in the North Sea and closing nuke plants in Germany, the amount of energy dependence has only increased about a 120 basis points in 20 years:
Over this 20-year timeframe, the EU-27 average country’s energy dependence has increased from 56.3% to 57.5%, meaning EU members became slightly more reliant on energy imports over those two decades.
If all that ESG stuff actually worked, energy dependence would have decreased because fossil fuel use is down.

I didn't expect any of it to work, so I expected a larger need for fossil fuels because of shutting down nukes and replacing them with less reliable solar and wind. I guess it was all show and no dough, so not much impact.

Greta is not pleased:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MguS7lLtWcI

Russia represents over a quarter of EU oil imports, over 40% of EU natural gas imports, and almost half of EU coal imports. Maybe time to go long on rubles.
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Capt Obvious notes that ESG isn't about improving the Environment, Society or quality of Governance. It's about using Environment scares as a lever to increase Mr Global's Social and Governmental control.
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blackeagle603 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:57 pm Capt Obvious notes that ESG isn't about improving the Environment, Society or quality of Governance. It's about using Environment scares as a lever to increase Mr Global's Social and Governmental control.
It is simpler than that. It is about moving money into their pockets. If public companies have to keep the interests of their stock holders first, they can be held accountable. If they have to bow to vague ESG stakeholder rules, then the money can move to .gov or other 3rd parties (or themselves) with relatively little accountability.
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ESG is the Mr Global's way of implementing Social Credit Scores in the west. Use big business to .gov's bidding scoring and canceling citizens and businesses instead of running directly as a program of .gov as with the CCP.

Gee, without invoking Godwin's law, what system of government_business relationship does that look like?
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blackeagle603 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:14 pm ESG is the Mr Global's way of implementing Social Credit Scores in the west. Use big business to .gov's bidding scoring and canceling citizens and businesses instead of running directly as a program of .gov as with the CCP.

Gee, without invoking Godwin's law, what system of government_business relationship does that look like?
Yes, ot has a corporatism component, but the primary motivation is money, that is to say taking away from others. Of the money goes away most will walk away.
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"...the OBVIOUS motivation is money."

There. Fixed it for you.

To stop there is to ignore everything Mr Global has said and continues to say in public, on the record, about his full range of motivation and ultimate desires.


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blackeagle603 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:51 pm "...the OBVIOUS motivation is money."

There. Fixed it for you.

To stop there is to ignore everything Mr Global has said and continues to say in public, on the record, about his full range of motivation and ultimate desires.

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You give them way too much credit. They are winging it just like everyone else. They want to dress up their money grubbing antics in left wing pieties, but it is just window dressing.
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Ok, pay no attention to the men out front talking about their goals, plans and reporting on progress. Gotcha.

I'll just go back to my bread and circuses.
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blackeagle603 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:19 pm Ok, pay no attention to the men out front talking about their goals, plans and reporting on progress. Gotcha.

I'll just go back to my bread and circuses.
You are very much missing my point. It is not that this there are not groups actively trying to push our laws and society in a certain direction, it is that their motivation is the same as every motive, money and power. Mostly money these days but power where they can get it - but only if they can leverage it to wealth. That is what they want. The pretty talk about socialism and climate change is BS for the plebes- don't be a plebe. (Being for or against what they want is beside the point there.)

The men standing out front are doing marketing. There is some truth in it, they probably believe some of their lies, but it is a pretty picture and no more. If they stood out and front and said give us this power so we can steal wealth that we could never earn for ourselves, no one would follow them. But they promise the world and threaten that we are on the edge of disaster- that sells.

Socialism in all of its forms has never delivered prosperity, but it has delivered wealth and power to the leaders that pushed it. That is what they want.

Short answer is that they believe their own BS to the extent that it may line their pockets and no more.
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blackeagle603 wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:14 pmGee, without invoking Godwin's law, what system of government_business relationship does that look like?
Ooh! Ooh! Mr. Kotter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpuGRO72GbA

Would that be "Socialism" done the "right" way?
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