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Portland Reavers
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:22 pm
by Weetabix
Scroll down to 7/12/20 - throwing fecal matter? Ingesting narcotics when confronted and going into convulsions?
Where do they find these people?
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/16/act ... e-portland
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:20 pm
by Jered
Apparently they're getting snatched up by feds in unmarked cars.
The irony here is lost on them...
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/It- ... WXA5Wo4Ebs
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:48 pm
by D5CAV
Unless Trump has a request from the Mayor of Portland for assistance, he should keep us.fed.gov personnel out of Portland.
Besides the old argument (killed by Lincoln in his "Ultima Ratio Regnum") of separation of authority between local, state and federal government, here are a few more reasons:
1. By sending feds to Portland, Trump plays right into their childish games and gives them their "photo ops" (see? see? Big Orange Man hurt us poor peaceful protesters!)
2. The majority of people in Portland voted for the liberal idiots running the city; now they can reap what they sow. Lessons learned in blood are the ones most remembered; the longer they bleed, maybe they'll still remember when voting time comes in November.
3. As long as he stays out of Portland, Trump can tell the Mayor of Portland to go pound sand when he comes crying for federal "disaster aid" like Trump told the Mayor of Minneapolis. By sending us.fed.gov personnel to Portland, he has less ability to do that.
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:13 am
by Netpackrat
If those are actually feds...
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:05 pm
by Vonz90
D5CAV wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:48 pm
Unless Trump has a request from the Mayor of Portland for assistance, he should keep us.fed.gov personnel out of Portland.
Besides the old argument (killed by Lincoln in his "Ultima Ratio Regnum") of separation of authority between local, state and federal government, here are a few more reasons:
1. By sending feds to Portland, Trump plays right into their childish games and gives them their "photo ops" (see? see? Big Orange Man hurt us poor peaceful protesters!)
2. The majority of people in Portland voted for the liberal idiots running the city; now they can reap what they sow. Lessons learned in blood are the ones most remembered; the longer they bleed, maybe they'll still remember when voting time comes in November.
3. As long as he stays out of Portland, Trump can tell the Mayor of Portland to go pound sand when he comes crying for federal "disaster aid" like Trump told the Mayor of Minneapolis. By sending us.fed.gov personnel to Portland, he has less ability to do that.
The flip side is, there is a long history of local Democrats using third party assets (was KKK, now antifa and BLM) to violate people's civil rights and the Fed's having to step into protect said civil rights.
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:37 am
by HTRN
D5CAV wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:48 pm
Unless Trump has a request from the Mayor of Portland for assistance, he should keep us.fed.gov personnel out of Portland.
Because ignoring a budding insurgency that has coopted local govt can't possibly bite us in the ass..
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:01 am
by Netpackrat
I think the lesson here is that Seattle eventually dealt with their own problem. Portland won't, so it will be dealt with for them.
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:07 am
by Langenator
The Federal police units in Portland are being deployed to protect the Federal courthouse and other Federal buildings. They're not on general riot control duty.
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:55 pm
by Greg
Langenator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:07 am
The Federal police units in Portland are being deployed to protect the Federal courthouse and other Federal buildings. They're not on general riot control duty.
This. They appear to be only investigating Federal crimes and protecting Federal property, and otherwise respecting jurisdictional niceties.
Re: Portland Reavers
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:00 pm
by blackeagle603
unverified rumors of Feds there acting on pipe bomb type intel. Waiting to see if that gets some verifiable sourcing -- vs just grapevine from friends in the area