Path of "Progress"

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D5CAV
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Path of "Progress"

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At the cusp of the last century, between 1890 and 1910, there was the push of "Progressives". The leading edge of this was actually Bismarck in the newly united German Empire between 1880 and 1890. "Progress" was slower in the USA than in more "Progressive" countries like Germany, Italy and Russia, but it is clearly "progressing" now: https: https://internationalman.com/articles/t ... s-anymore/

Doug Casey resides in Uruguay, which I believe HTRN also recommended on another thread.
As Americans still legally vote, and it may well be that the voting is not altogether rigged, the US could be regarded as a democracy. Of course, to be accurate, it could also be defined as a bureaucracy – rule by officialdom, and/or a plutocracy – rule by the very rich. Both of these descriptions are undeniably accurate.
Try to get a congressman to help you with a problem with the IRS or DMV. Bureaucracy indeed!
For a definition, we might ask Benito Mussolini, the father of national fascism. He stated, “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.”

By defining the term, we can conclude that the US is no longer a capitalist country and hasn't been one for a long time. The US began its slide into fascism in a major way around the time that income tax and the Federal Reserve were created – in 1913. These measures were the brainchild of the largest bankers of the day and the Fed still remains under the power of the major banks.
To put things in perspective, in 1913, the us.gov portion of US GDP was about 5%. Do you think it is a coincidence that both IRS and Fed were created at the same time?
Voters, even many of those who are moderate, will support socialist candidates. The first national election that occurs after the crisis has begun will result in an overwhelming victory for socialist and other leftist candidates. The next president will provide a plethora of socialist “solutions” to counter “the damage done by capitalism.”

But such a prediction does not require a crystal ball. This has happened many times before. The Athenian Republic ran into the same problem. The Roman Republic also deteriorated in this manner. As stated by Aristotle, “Republics decline into democracies and democracies decline into despotisms.”
The question is, as in that old pop song, "Should I stay or should I go".

Thomas Paine's quote is timely today:
“My country is wherever liberty lives."
Doug says Uruguay. Maybe I stay here and make my exit standing.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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D5CAV wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:53 am Doug Casey resides in Uruguay, which I believe HTRN also recommended on another thread.
Uraguay is like 95% European stock, so blending in isn't a problem, and as it is south of the cocaine producing areas, it's of little interest to the cartels. It is, in short, a sleepy little backwater filled with white people.
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Re: Path of "Progress"

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D5CAV wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:53 am
As Americans still legally vote, and it may well be that the voting is not altogether rigged, the US could be regarded as a democracy. Of course, to be accurate, it could also be defined as a bureaucracy – rule by officialdom, and/or a plutocracy – rule by the very rich. Both of these descriptions are undeniably accurate.
Try to get a congressman to help you with a problem with the IRS or DMV. Bureaucracy indeed!
For a definition, we might ask Benito Mussolini, the father of national fascism. He stated, “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.”

By defining the term, we can conclude that the US is no longer a capitalist country and hasn't been one for a long time. The US began its slide into fascism in a major way around the time that income tax and the Federal Reserve were created – in 1913. These measures were the brainchild of the largest bankers of the day and the Fed still remains under the power of the major banks.
To put things in perspective, in 1913, the us.gov portion of US GDP was about 5%. Do you think it is a coincidence that both IRS and Fed were created at the same time?
Voters, even many of those who are moderate, will support socialist candidates. The first national election that occurs after the crisis has begun will result in an overwhelming victory for socialist and other leftist candidates. The next president will provide a plethora of socialist “solutions” to counter “the damage done by capitalism.”
Bureaucracy does not mean "rule by" anything

bureaucracy
byoo͝-rŏk′rə-sē
noun
1. Administration of a government chiefly through bureaus or departments staffed with nonelected officials.
2. The departments and their officials as a group.
3. Management or administration marked by hierarchical authority among numerous offices and by fixed procedures.

I am not a fan of the administrative state, but that is not what the word means.

If you want to move to Uruguay - go have fun. It js probably nice. 🤷‍♂️
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