Defunding the Police

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Defunding the Police

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It looks like St. Louis city is stupid enough to do it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad- ... und-police
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From that article:
The plan moves $4 million out of the $171 million police budget to be used for affordable housing, homeless services, a victims’ support program, and civil rights enforcement.
So, about a 2.3% cut when all is said and done, and that's considered "defunding the police." Oooo-kay then.
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Netpackrat wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 2:37 am From that article:
The plan moves $4 million out of the $171 million police budget to be used for affordable housing, homeless services, a victims’ support program, and civil rights enforcement.
So, about a 2.3% cut when all is said and done, and that's considered "defunding the police." Oooo-kay then.
Since it's a pretty sure bet that the cuts won't come at the expense of Command and Support staff, or of the "High Speed Low Drag Tacticool" teams and task forces, the impact on actual street level operations is likely to be higher.

Oh well, they can always use Asset forfeiture to make up the difference.
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St Louis city is already one of the most dangerous cities in the US and almost all of the violence happens in 3 precincts, they are not going to pull police from the nice neighborhoods or the business districts so guess who will suffer?
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Per the article, they are eliminating 90 some police positions that are currently not filled. There will be no reduction in actual cops on the street. Basically the Defund crowd has very little grounds for declaring victory, as I read it.
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Netpackrat wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 3:55 am Per the article, they are eliminating 90 some police positions that are currently not filled. There will be no reduction in actual cops on the street. Basically the Defund crowd has very little grounds for declaring victory, as I read it.
Truth and rationality have no weight in how they'll spin it, though. And 95% of the people who hear their crowing won't do even minimal research to see what the actual numbers mean.

Eliminating vacant positions is also kind of like a surrender. Couple that with the fact that many of the positions are probably vacant because of animosity toward the police that began under Obama, and they could be considered to be winning incrementally.

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Weetabix wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 3:33 pm

Eliminating vacant positions is also kind of like a surrender. Couple that with the fact that many of the positions are probably vacant because of animosity toward the police that began under Obama, and they could be considered to be winning incrementally.

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