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Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:21 pm
by 308Mike
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Group asks states to track citizens' ammo
Organization claims it is 'saving lives 1 bullet at a time'

Posted: December 09, 2008
10:05 pm Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

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Coded bullet (photo: KOMO-TV, Seattle)

Legislation to trace ammunition is pending in several states, and many gun owners are concerned that it is just another attempt by anti-gun groups to violate citizens' Second Amendment rights.

An organization known as Ammunition Accountability is pushing to make coding technology mandatory across the nation. Its website claims it is a group of "gun crime victims, industry representatives, law enforcement, public officials, public policy experts, and more" who are "saving lives one bullet at a time."

If states pass the legislation, manufacturers will be required to laser etch a serial number into the back of each bullet and the inside of cartridge casings, a patented process developed by Seattle, Wash., resident Russ Ford and his business partners, Steve Mace and John Knickerbocker.

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Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:22 pm
by Weetabix
I don't mind if they track my ammo...

... by the muzzle flash.

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:53 pm
by FelixEstrella
This was tried in CA last year. I don't think it even made it to a vote.

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:29 am
by Rod
Couple of sites I found while trying to find out who all these people are:

snowflakes in Hell

Ron Paul site
Look at the research done by tangent4ronpaul.

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:28 am
by Termite
Reckon how they plan to stop folks from making their own? And if they think it's so hard, they need to come watch PawPaw or his buddy Junior Doughty cast bullets over their campfire. Like was done, oh.... 100+ years ago.

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:02 am
by Denis
Rod wrote:Couple of sites I found while trying to find out who all these people are:

snowflakes in Hell

Ron Paul site
Look at the research done by tangent4ronpaul.
Haha, economics cannot be denied. Remember how Adam Smith said that undertakings always try to create a monopoly by using government regulation? My first reaction to the post was: "hmm, I'll bet that lobby group is a front for whoever sells the marking technology". And, hey presto, we have confirmation. Talk about being hamfisted...

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:40 am
by esa5444
Termite wrote:Reckon how they plan to stop folks from making their own? And if they think it's so hard, they need to come watch PawPaw or his buddy Junior Doughty cast bullets over their campfire. Like was done, oh.... 100+ years ago.

First they will make selling reloading components in the state illegal. Then they will go after out of state vendors with enough gusto to make them stop selling to your state. Then they will ban the possession of ammunition components in your state (and use a broad sense of ammunition, ie, chunks of lead or brass with no clear purpose). Then they will register all gun owners. Then they will probably create some government agency, call it the State Technical Ammunition Safety Inspection Office that will have very broad, unconstitutional but "reasonable" powers to randomly inspect known gun-owners to make sure that everything in order is.
This will get 98% or so of people to comply outright. The remaining two percent will be dealt with slowly, but surely, by simply calling in a SWAT team on anyone who is suspected of having unregistered ammo, and telling them that there is a suspected child-raping terrorist in there, and that it's better to be a little trigger happy than risk their own life.

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:24 pm
by cu74
esa5444 wrote:First they will make selling reloading components in the state illegal. Then they will go after out of state vendors with enough gusto to make them stop selling to your state. Then they will ban the possession of ammunition components in your state (and use a broad sense of ammunition, ie, chunks of lead or brass with no clear purpose). Then they will register all gun owners. Then they will probably create some government agency, call it the State Technical Ammunition Safety Inspection Office that will have very broad, unconstitutional but "reasonable" powers to randomly inspect known gun-owners to make sure that everything in order is.
Sadly, I think Eugene is spot on with analysis.

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:42 pm
by Weetabix
I like your acronym, Eugene. Seems appropriate.

Re: Group asks states to track citizens' ammo

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:56 pm
by HTRN
Termite wrote:Reckon how they plan to stop folks from making their own? And if they think it's so hard, they need to come watch PawPaw or his buddy Junior Doughty cast bullets over their campfire. Like was done, oh.... 100+ years ago.
That's the way they did in the 19th century.

This how you do it in the 21st. :mrgreen:


HTRN