Berg vs Obama lawsuit

[mekender]

Most likely if the election has already taken place, Biden will be promoted. He would be the duly elected Vice Prez, and the proper successor, assuming that McCain and Palin aren't elected.

negative... Biden would have been elected via fraud, no way he remains in office under those circumstances... most likely we would see an emergency convening of the electors and perhaps a new election. also likely, an emergency session of congress along with the house to lay out a new constitutional amendment detailing exactly what to do in this case.

[The Quiet Man]

Well, apparently this story is starting to get some legs. I just got an email from Newsmax and they are running the story. I do have my doubts about it going anywhere though. If Obambi does win (which is the likely scenario) then I believe that it will be all swept under the rug while the dems and the MSM are all busy slapping themselves on the back. Besides, for all the crap the MSM and the dems are whining about the possibility of Palin being "only one heartbeat from the presidency" if McCain wins, NOBODY wants to see Joe "gaff-o-matic" Biden sitting in the big chair...even the his own people! I don't know how the electors could cast their votes for someone who wasn't even on the ballot, which rules out Hitlery. So my money is that this whole thing just goes away. Because there ain't no way that this is going to be raised as an issue before the American people less than two weeks before an election. The MSM will see to that and after the election I think it will be too late. Unless McCain starts making a public issue out of this as well as all the other conservatives who have something of the public's ear it is going to just go away and we will get our first president in history that is NOT an American citizen.

[Netpackrat]

I don't believe McCain can touch this if he wants to have any chance of winning on election day. The court case is all going to boil down to this one judge, and whichever court it ends up being appealed to.

[Termite]

And one just has to wonder about Hildabeast's role in this.

[Termite]

it is way too late to change the ballots... but the electors can elect hillary/biden if they choose.

Little secret: the electors can actually do whatever they damn well please, including write-ins.

[cu74]

I don't know how the electors could cast their votes for someone who wasn't even on the ballot, which rules out Hitlery.

The Electoral College has lots of latitude. Some electors are "beholding" to their state legislatures, some not. Some have an ethic or two, some have none. Moreover, a case could be made for the premise that the voters are actually selecting a party "slate" when they vote in the general election. You won't be voting for a single name - the ballot listings will be something like "GOP - McCain/Palin" and "DEM - Obama/Biden". (Could be wrong here - does anyone know of a state with ballots that list the Presidential and the Vice Presidential candidates separately?)

I don't even have to think outside the box to see the DNC having an emergency meeting and replacing Obama with Clinton as the Democratic Party Presidential Candidate and issuing statements to the effect that a vote for the Obama/Biden "ticket" is actually a vote for the "ticket consisting of Clinton/Biden. Lots of lawyering would result, but the Electoral College would no doubt "select" Clinton and Biden if the votes were there for the Obama/Biden ticket. Lots more lawyering would result, but to no avail.

IMHO, we shouldn't get too hung up on who the people vote for. The "people" in caucus states don't get to vote for the candidates in the primaries. Obama didn't get the nomination from the "people". He got the nomination from the caucuses and the Super Delegates - IIRC, Clinton won most of the Popular Vote States.

Our election process is untidy. I'm reminded of the Joseph Stalin quote, "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do." If Obama is proven to be an "illegal candidate" for the Dim Party, the "people who count" within the party will replace his sorry ass..........

Time to join Felix and his case of beer. Pull up a chair and pop the cap on another brewski........ )

NOTE: Mekender posted while I was laborously typing......

[Dub_James]

Y'know, the whole citizenship thing might be correct, and he may indeed be ineligible, but I've got a sneaking feeling it's not going to make one damn bit of difference one way or another. I just get the feeling it's not going to be allowed to interfere with his run for office.

[mekender]

You won't be voting for a single name - the ballot listings will be something like "GOP - McCain/Palin" and "DEM - Obama/Biden". (Could be wrong here - does anyone know of a state with ballots that list the Presidential and the Vice Presidential candidates separately?)

every one ive ever seen does... per the constitution the pres and the VP are elected separately... and it is entirely legitimate for the electors to elect the Pres and VP from different parties... it has never happened, but neither has a DQ this close to the election.

[slowpoke]

It could get even more interesting. There is a distinct possibility of an electoral tie this election. If that happens then the House picks the president and the senate picks the VP. It could be that Cheney casts a tie breaker for Palin and the House Picks Obama. Then things become REALLY sideways....

[mekender]

It could get even more interesting. There is a distinct possibility of an electoral tie this election. If that happens then the House picks the president and the senate picks the VP. It could be that Cheney casts a tie breaker for Palin and the House Picks Obama. Then things become REALLY sideways....

what would become even worse... if the senate stalled in that case... then the speaker of the house becomes the president elect...