9th circuit incorporates 2A

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I also just noticed in my highlight above that the court only identified restrictions on HANDGUNS and RIFLES, so apparently there should be NO "reasonable" regulations on shotguns???

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looks like this will go to SCOTUS regardless...

the case in the 2nd circuit regarding nunchakus was denied incorporation under the second amendment...

http://schlissellaw.wordpress.com/2009/ ... -the-case/

it would be hard to reasonably argue that nunchakus arent arms and thus protected...
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Wow. :o
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mekender wrote:it would be hard to reasonably argue that nunchakus arent arms and thus protected...
But they AREN'T arms, they're a FARMING TOOL. Didn't you know? :D
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308Mike wrote:
mekender wrote:it would be hard to reasonably argue that nunchakus arent arms and thus protected...
But they AREN'T arms, they're a FARMING TOOL. Didn't you know? :D
but in the Amish country of the 2nd circuit, they are totally weapons...
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308Mike wrote:I also just noticed in my highlight above that the court only identified restrictions on HANDGUNS and RIFLES, so apparently there should be NO "reasonable" regulations on shotguns???
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Seeing as how the 2nd says "...shall not be infringed", and not "Congress shall make no law...", it shouldn't need to be incorporated under the 14th anyhow. The plain language of the 2nd does that already.
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BRRRRRRR!!!!!

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I have to read this decision. Exactly how did the 9th circuit conclude that while the 2nd Amendment WAS incorporated against the states, the state could still win on summary judgment (apparently) as if it wasn't incorporated?

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From NRA-ILA:
[center]Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Holds that the Second Amendment Applies to the States[/center]

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Fairfax, Va. – Today, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit marked a milestone in Second Amendment history by ruling that the Second Amendment limits state and local government infringements on our right to keep and bear arms through the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. NRA has been involved in, and supportive of, this case for the past ten years and has filed several amicus briefs in the case.

“The historic Heller decision was a major victory for law-abiding gun owners and recognized that the federal government could not infringe on our right to keep and bear arms,” said Chris W. Cox, NRA chief lobbyist. “Today’s decision, which applies to the states in the Ninth Circuit, ensures that the fundamental freedoms affirmed in Heller are not just limited to the residents of Washington, D.C.”

In 1999, the Alameda County Board of Supervisors passed an ordinance that made it a misdemeanor to possess a firearm on county property, effectively banning gun shows. This ordinance affected a local business, owned by Russell and Sallie Nordyke, which promotes gun shows throughout California. In an attempt to continue holding their gun shows on the Alameda county fairgrounds property, the Nordykes filed suit to strike down the ordinance.

The U.S. Court of Appeals upheld the ordinance banning guns on county property, but found, consistent with the views of most Second Amendment scholars, that the Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms for all law-abiding Americans. NRA is also pursuing litigation on that issue in Chicago and Oak Park, Illinois. That case is currently pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.

“The NRA shares the Nordykes' disappointment with the ruling on the county ordinance, as gun shows should not be discriminated against by local government entities. The incorporation portion of the decision, however, is a major step forward in enshrining our Second Amendment freedoms,” said Cox.

“This decision brings us closer to seeing Heller applied throughout the land,” concluded Cox. “After nearly 10 years of litigation, the hard work of the Nordykes, their attorneys, Donald Kilmer and Don Kates, and NRA’s legal team has resulted in today’s historic decision.”

[center]-NRA-

Established in 1871, the National Rifle Association is America’s oldest civil rights and sportsmen's group. Four million members strong, NRA continues its mission to uphold Second Amendment rights and to advocate enforcement of existing laws against violent offenders to reduce crime. The Association remains the nation's leader in firearm education and training for law-abiding gun owners, law enforcement and the military.
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