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Termite
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HTRN wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:05 am Good; it's an entirely new type of vaccine(mRNA) that was rushed to market, and had the stringint FDA testing that's usually performed on vaccines, waived. Let them be the guinea pigs and if, say half them drop dead, then it's no real loss.
Ditto to that

And all this for a virus with a lethality rate of .2% for healthy adults under age 70. And for children under 14, the rate is .04%. About twice as many children have been lost to seasonal flu this year than to SARS-CoV-2.

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Termite wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:43 pm The fact that there is a caution for women of child bearing age not to become pregnant for up to 1 yr after taking the vaccine should say something.............
That's pretty much SOP for almost any vaccine or medication for that matter. It's not ethical to experiment on pregnant women, so they can't in good faith say that it's safe either.
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Let them be the guinea pigs and if, say half them drop dead, then it's no real loss.
Yeah, mRNA fiddling. No thanks for me.

All y'all can go ahead and GMO yourselves. I'll get popcorn and watch -- for at least 10 years.
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Termite wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:41 am
HTRN wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:05 am Good; it's an entirely new type of vaccine(mRNA) that was rushed to market, and had the stringint FDA testing that's usually performed on vaccines, waived. Let them be the guinea pigs and if, say half them drop dead, then it's no real loss.
Ditto to that

And all this for a virus with a lethality rate of .2% for healthy adults under age 70. And for children under 14, the rate is .04%. About twice as many children have been lost to seasonal flu this year than to SARS-CoV-2.

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/sensible ... -strategy/
I guess the people who survive the virus but suffer permanent physical harm from it don't count, as usual. Mrs. NPR and I will be getting vaccinated at our earliest opportunity. I am tired of this shit and I want to be done with it.
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Netpackrat wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:51 pm
Termite wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:41 am
HTRN wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:05 am Good; it's an entirely new type of vaccine(mRNA) that was rushed to market, and had the stringint FDA testing that's usually performed on vaccines, waived. Let them be the guinea pigs and if, say half them drop dead, then it's no real loss.
Ditto to that

And all this for a virus with a lethality rate of .2% for healthy adults under age 70. And for children under 14, the rate is .04%. About twice as many children have been lost to seasonal flu this year than to SARS-CoV-2.

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/sensible ... -strategy/
I guess the people who survive the virus but suffer permanent physical harm from it don't count, as usual. Mrs. NPR and I will be getting vaccinated at our earliest opportunity. I am tired of this shit and I want to be done with it.
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Netpackrat wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:51 pmI guess the people who survive the virus but suffer permanent physical harm from it don't count, as usual.
Yeah it's not like drugs for minor ailments in almost every patient have had horrific consequences before, right?
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Had a mild case (incl. positive test) in early December. Feeling fine now. Old enough not to be interested in becoming a father again. Current attitude is "wait and see and probably get the vaccine in a few months."
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HTRN wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:11 am
Netpackrat wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:51 pmI guess the people who survive the virus but suffer permanent physical harm from it don't count, as usual.
Yeah it's not like drugs for minor ailments in almost every patient have had horrific consequences before, right?
There's nothing "minor" about this
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JKosprey wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:12 am There's nothing "minor" about this
The only thing exceptional about this is Covids transmission rate. It has a survival rate of those under 70 of 99%+. Most of the fatalities under it have serious comorbities such as cancer, being immunocompromised, etc.

While it makes sense to administer it to the elderly and vulnerable, taking a potentially risky vaccine for those who are neither makes no sense to me.
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You're forgetting that this virus does a lot more than just kill people. Loss of lung function (which is generally permanent), increased risk of DVT and stroke (even in the previously young and healthy), acute kidney injuries...and we're just at the very beginning of understanding the potential long term consequences of infection.

It's not simply a matter of "did you die?"
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