i see nothing in the NRA statement that mentions a job level..FelixEstrella wrote:Ah. It's not for low-level jobs:
Dare I say the NRA mislead the scope of the questionaire?A seven-page questionnaire being sent by the office of President-elect Barack Obama to those seeking cabinet and other high-ranking posts
President-elect Obama's Employment Application Form Asks Gun
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“I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform.” - Norman Thomas, a six time candidate for president for the Socialist Party, 1944
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I wouldn't say so, they said ADMINISTRATION, not your run-of-the-mill employed slugs like those found at DU (Freep link):FelixEstrella wrote:Ah. It's not for low-level jobs:
Dare I say the NRA mislead the scope of the questionaire?A seven-page questionnaire being sent by the office of President-elect Barack Obama to those seeking cabinet and other high-ranking posts




POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
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LOL
It's funny because it's (typically) true.

It's funny because it's (typically) true.
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Make my back burn
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Make my back, make my back burn
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Employment application implies, at least in my mind, a level much below a cabinet position.mekender wrote: i see nothing in the NRA statement that mentions a job level..
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I don't have any guns and they're not registered. 

The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
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Scrolling through that list, it looks like they're looking for things that could be politically embarrassing. An anti-gun staffer who owns guns and has a lapsed registration in Chicago, for example, would be a bit of a scandal.
Other items include things like "Have you ever been involved in any controversial matters in the course of your career" and "Have you had any association with any person, group, or business venture that could be used -even unfairly- to impugn or attack your character and qualifications for government service?"
Other items include things like "Have you ever been involved in any controversial matters in the course of your career" and "Have you had any association with any person, group, or business venture that could be used -even unfairly- to impugn or attack your character and qualifications for government service?"
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I heard about this on Hannity today and his comments were great. Obama couldn't even get a job in his own administration if he had to fill this out. Looks like triage, as in: "Who's got the fewest gaffes in their life? Okay, that person is in as SecDef."
one can be a Democrat, or one can choose to be an American.
Good acting requires an imagination; reality requires a person not getting lost in their imagination.
"It's better to have a gun if you need it". Felix's opthamologist
Good acting requires an imagination; reality requires a person not getting lost in their imagination.
"It's better to have a gun if you need it". Felix's opthamologist
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I wonder if they are going to require vault copies of birth certificates as proof-of-citizenship.
(No. Dammit. I cannot let that go.)
(No. Dammit. I cannot let that go.)
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Linkarooni - ISRA getting their licks in too (Press Release):
Thursday, Nov. 13, 2008
[center]Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama's White House Team
Illinois State Rifle Association[/center]
SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Nov. 13 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):
In yet another example of hostility towards lawful firearm owners, the Obama transition team is weeding out applicants for White House positions who own firearms themselves, or who come from firearm-owning families.
Evidence of the Obama team's distaste for firearm owners may be found as Question 59 of a 63 item questionnaire administered by Obama staffers to all potential applicants for positions in the Obama White House. The question asks for sensitive information about firearms owned by the applicant and his/her family.
"Question 59 provides clear insight into how Obama and his people perceive firearm owners," said ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson. The questionnaire poses a number of questions asking the applicant to reveal any unethical activities, or embarrassing Internet chats, then wraps up by asking if anyone in the applicant's family owns a firearm. Obviously, Obama feels that owning a firearm is akin to talking dirty in Internet chat rooms. But that should come as no surprise as, while an Illinois State Senator, Obama voted for SB1195 - a provision of which called for gun owners to be registered in the same manner as sex offenders."
"Once again, we have to ask ourselves just what candidate Obama was talking about when he said he has 'respect' for the 2nd Amendment," commented Pearson. "If this latest assault on gun owners is considered a gesture of respect, then either Obama or myself is very confused."
A copy of the questionnaire may be found at http://www.isra-pvf.com/obamaquestionnaire.pdf
The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. Founded in 1903, the ISRA has represented the interests of millions of law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.
WEB SITE: http://www.isra.org
SOURCE Illinois State Rifle Association
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
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From NRA-ILA
[center]Gun Owners Need Not Apply?
Obama Personnel Questionnaire Shows Anti-gun Bias[/center]
Friday, November 14, 2008
Last week, we reported on the anti-gun legislative agenda proposed by President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team, headed by former Clinton administration operatives John Podesta and Rahm Emanuel. (That document was quickly removed from the official transition website, but you can still see it at http://www.nraila.org/pdfs/obamaurbanpolicy.pdf.)
This week, it became clear that the new administration’s anti-gun agenda even infects the process of staffing the administration. A widely disseminated questionnaire for those applying for administration jobs asks:
“(59) Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”
Of course, the questionnaire does not ask similar questions about any other type of personal property. For example, applicants are not asked to list any cars they own, who drives the cars, or what accidents the cars have been involved in—even though far more deaths and injuries each year involve motor vehicles than involve firearms.
Though past involvement in a gun-related mishap might be politically embarrassing, it is unclear why the transition team would find it more embarrassing than some other kind of accident. And if misuse of a gun would cause an applicant to have a criminal record or to get involved in litigation, that would be disclosed under other questions, such as those about lawsuits against the applicant or applicant’s spouse, and about criminal investigations, arrests, charges or convictions.
Besides being unnecessary, the question misleads applicants about existing firearm laws. The question demands that applicants provide “complete ownership and registration information” about all firearms owned. But only five states have statewide gun registration; of these, and only Hawaii requires registration of all types of firearms. And Federal law specifically forbids creation of a federal registration system (and we intend to keep it that way).
The question also asks applicants to report any lapse in registration, but this, too, is misleading. Only New York City and three nearby counties require periodic renewal of a firearm registration, and then only as part of the process for renewing a handgun license.
Finally, the question asks applicants how the firearm is used. Once again, if an applicant is not using his gun to commit crimes, how could this possibly be relevant to a person’s fitness to serve in the Obama administration?
The possibilities are chilling.
Will applicants who own firearms for self-defense in the home be disqualified, given Obama’s votes at the state level to disallow self-defense arguments by people who used guns to protect themselves in the home, in spite of a local gun ban?
Will applicants be disqualified if they legally carry a firearm for self-protection outside the home, given Obama’s ongoing opposition to state Right-to-Carry laws, and his call for an unconstitutional federal law to outlaw Right-to-Carry?
Will hunters be disqualified, given the endorsement of Obama’s candidacy by the Humane Society of the United States, one of our nation’s most radical anti-hunting lobbies?
One thing is for sure: If the Obama team thinks these are good questions to ask job applicants, it’s only a matter of time before they’ll want to ask the rest of us, too.
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad
A person properly schooled in right and wrong is safe with any weapon. A person with no idea of good and evil is unsafe with a knitting needle, or the cap from a ballpoint pen.
I remain pessimistic given the way BATF and the anti gun crowd have become tape worms in the guts of the Republic. - toad