arctictom wrote:Their are more than a couple of us exploring various alternatives .
Economic or sexual?
Maybe,
Just ,
Tired of the bull shit, the NFIB call me today told them not to bother me any more I am expatring at least half of my assets the US is not a business friendly environment, they have lost the battle.
Years ago I read a short story by Poul Anderson called "Hunters of the Sky Cave". I can't find it online, so this is from memory, but there was a quote that went something like "Anyone with any sense knows that winter is coming, but we also know it won't be here in our lifetime. So we turn up our collars, and curse the cold, and amuse ourselves playing with a few brightly-colored, dead leaves."
America is in decline, and I suspect we're past the tipping point. Too many people have lost touch with the attitudes that made America great, those of us who honor liberty and responsibility are now a minority, people who just want more free shit are in the majority. I also suspect the collapse won't come within my lifetime, but when it does it'll make the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome look like a minor blip.
Eh, I think it will look more like us turning into India, than anything else.
Rome's "fall" was more of a very slow degradation, starting with Ceasar.
Civilization progresses in a cyclical nature - the Moon might be as far as we get, this time, but I don't think calculus will be lost, nor chemistry - possibly not even biotech - but I think we're headed more toward developing a vast unwashed, ruled by a kleptocracy, than outright collapse.
If you can stomach it, join the Socialist vermin, and get a gilded cage.
There might be some backwaters left to hide in, but Singapore will be wiped out before China would let them get too powerful, Chile might be OK - but in both those places, you are trading some freedoms for financial ones, and a major disease would be beyond their means to cope - Chile might be able to quarantine itself - so could New Zealand - Singapore would be wiped out, economically.
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You might want to be careful escaping the "collapse" of the US by fleeing to places that can't effectively defend themselves and rely on the US for their security.
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
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Yes/No/Maybe. Singapore could, easily, develop WMDs if pressed - but, frankly, what nation, aside from Russia, isn't dependent on the US for protection?
Even China has little/no blue water capacity. (But, they do have ICBMs.)
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If you're not gonna start shooting and flee the country over a few taxes "because freedom", I will physically detach my buttocks with laughter at anyone going to Singapore.
That's almost as rich as people threatening to flee to Canada if Obama got re-elected.
Aglifter wrote:Yes/No/Maybe. Singapore could, easily, develop WMDs if pressed - but, frankly, what nation, aside from Russia, isn't dependent on the US for protection?
Even China has little/no blue water capacity. (But, they do have ICBMs.)
There's a difference between protecting their trade (which we do for everyone, we're the only country capable of effective worldwide blue water trade protection) and protecting their territorial integrity.
Most countries have come to rely on the US to protect their trade and their territorial integrity. But there are countries that are easily capable of managing their own defense (if not defending their trade, global blue water navies are rare for a reason) should the US umbrella falter, and those who aren't. You'd be best served trying to move to a country in the former category.
Deterring local piracy is about all Singapore can manage, otherwise their military is for buying a little time for help to arrive. They simply don't have the resources to defend against even a regional power.
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
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Greg wrote:Deterring local piracy is about all Singapore can manage, otherwise their military is for buying a little time for help to arrive. They simply don't have the resources to defend against even a regional power.
I believe Malaysia would (a) consider itself a regional power and (b) disagree with you.
Greg wrote:Deterring local piracy is about all Singapore can manage, otherwise their military is for buying a little time for help to arrive. They simply don't have the resources to defend against even a regional power.
I believe Malaysia would (a) consider itself a regional power and (b) disagree with you.
Are you saying that Singapore could defend itself against a determined invasion by Malaysia without outside help? That would be interesting. But I severely doubt it.
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
Sanity is the process by which you continually adjust your beliefs so they are predictively sound. -esr
Any first world nation either has WMDs or can produce them quickly - ESP chemical weapons.
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