Obama to face charges?

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Kommander wrote:I think he is referring to your belief that he is a member of the Obama campaign.
well its either that or hes a member of the AHSA...

because i dont know of any other groups that will so adamantly try to convince people that know better that Obama is a pro-gun candidate and that we have nothing to fear from his presidency...
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Erik wrote:
Spells wrote: You're seeing things that aren't there, which is consistent with your condition. Consider haldol.
That's a not very original ad hominem. The far left traditionally claim that anyone not agreeing with them is crazy or mentally insane. At least you just want to medicate dissenters to the Messiah, and not throw them into asylums. Yet anyway.
its a projection thing... largely the same reason why so many of them are extreme anti-gunners... they lack self control and they know it, so they know that they shouldnt be trusted with a gun... by projection they assume that everyone else is just as unstable as they are, this means that no one should be trusted with a gun.
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mekender wrote:what am i seeing that isnt there?
I don't work for Obama, I oppose most gun control, Obama is not the most anti-gun candidate ever. You don't even have to go back further than Bubba to find somebody more anti-gun. Clinton campaigned specifically on restricting gun ownership.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_contro ... nistration

AWB, Brady Bill, the S&W locks everybody is so fond of, executive orders, etc. He did all that.

The NRA saying Obama is the most anti-gun candidate ever does not make it so.
are you trying to imply that obama isnt anti gun?
He pretty clearly supports some laws that I don't, so I would consider him more anti-gun than I am. But he sounds pretty moderate to me compared to Clinton. I think the NRA has obviously been misrepresenting the facts, however, so if you were inclined to believe them I see why you might think Obama is the boogyman. The GOP is appealing to fear because they have nothing left.
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Spells,

I think you know the culture here well enough that we don't throw those kinds of insults at each other. Other new members have been able to grasp that from what I've seen.

You may not be a Troll, but your posts are often identical what one would expect from a Troll.

I'd be much more mindful of that, if I were you.
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But he sounds pretty moderate to me compared to Clinton.
But we're not comparing Obama to Clinton, certainly not in a way based on their records, because Obama doesn't yet have one as extensive as Clinton had. If he'd been around at the time, I see nothing to indicate he wouldn't have supported the Clinton initiatives.

He supports everything that Clinton passed and more. THAT makes him more anti-gun than Clinton.
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Spells wrote:I think the NRA has obviously been misrepresenting the facts, however, so if you were inclined to believe them I see why you might think Obama is the boogyman. The GOP is appealing to fear because they have nothing left.
What facts are being mis-represented?

and i dont know what you have been paying attention to but the GOP has not been running with Obama's anti stances... they have largely ignored gun control/ownership in this campaign.
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Guys - keep the arguments to the topics and knock off the personal attacks.
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Obama was on the board of the Joyce Foundation... Its hard to get more anti-gun... As for facing charges, I doubt it, but I'm sure he, along w. 95% of DC's politicians, IMO, incl. McCain, should be either incarcerated or institutionalized.
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Dub_James wrote:I think you know the culture here well enough that we don't throw those kinds of insults at each other.
It seems to depend on who is making them. I was responding to an accusation that I am employed by the Obama campaign.
quote wrote:Guys - keep the arguments to the topics and knock off the personal attacks.
Will do.

The topic is whether Rezko's talking means an indictment against Obama is imminent. It's ridiculous. Everybody local knows the investigation is about the IL governor, and the IL governor acknowledges as much while denying wrongdoing. The idea that Fitzgerald being involved means it can only have something to do with Obama is silly.
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Spells wrote:The topic is whether Rezko's talking means an indictment against Obama is imminent. It's ridiculous. Everybody local knows the investigation is about the IL governor, and the IL governor acknowledges as much while denying wrongdoing. The idea that Fitzgerald being involved means it can only have something to do with Obama is silly.
so a sweetheart deal on a strip of land at way more than market value from Rezko to Obama had nothing to do with anything shady?

or the fact that the entire lot that Rezko owned was closed off so that the only access was through Obama's yard.

every time a story comes out about obama, it is another person that he knows that is a shady character... it would stand to reason that obama himself is a shady character... the question of weather or not he can be indicted for a crime is not rediculous...
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