The GOP Simply Wants To Abolish Public Education

[blackeagle603]

re: "Politicians are NOT going to allow the money to go to any 3 toothed bubba that claims to be a school."

Maybe the problem there is that politicians are collecting and handing out money to schools. And maybe that is exacerbated by consolidation of school powers away from the most local, smallest unit of education -- the family.

[BDK]

Yes…. Sorta.

Lots of folks have crap/indifferent/addicted parents.

Those folks will not, ever, spend money to educate their kids.

Now, if we change some more laws, to permit churches, etc to offer boarding schools, and let a kid chose to attend one, rather than return to his parents, it might work.

I would far prefer to donate to a charity school, which offers to educate kids in stuff I think is important (at the minimum, formal logic and civics), than to pay taxes to provide money to be distributed to parents, but that is still a far better option than having to pay to fund a slush fund for cronies, which uses education as a cover.

[Precision]

Yes…. Sorta.

Lots of folks have crap/indifferent/addicted parents.

Those folks will not, ever, spend money to educate their kids.

Now, if we change some more laws, to permit churches, etc to offer boarding schools, and let a kid chose to attend one, rather than return to his parents, it might work.

I would far prefer to donate to a charity school, which offers to educate kids in stuff I think is important (at the minimum, formal logic and civics), than to pay taxes to provide money to be distributed to parents, but that is still a far better option than having to pay to fund a slush fund for cronies, which uses education as a cover.

I can agree with this. My point is take the monopoly away from governmental grooming / indoctrination centers. THEN work to improve from there. There should be some trial, which will involve error. I doubt more error, than happens currently though as private entities will be held liable.

[BDK]

It’s amazing how much less money gets spent, when liens and incarceration are a possible consequence of misappropriation.

[Windy Wilson]

There are more laws against trans studens in sports than there are trans students in sports.

This makes as much sense as the Quora question that asks if there is irony in the fact that President Reagan demanded that a wall be torn down, and President Trump tried to build a wall

There probably are more laws, because each jurisdiction will need its own suite of laws to assure all the records and scholarships in women's sports aren't monopolized by men.

[Windy Wilson]

It’s amazing how much less money gets spent, when liens and incarceration are a possible consequence of misappropriation.

Just how CAN we make these consequences of misappropriation more widespread, more well-known, and more certain.

[g-man]

We homeschool. We use an established curriculum, and we're involved in a local group where my wife tutors for the 4-6th 'grade' level students during the once weekly group day. Aside: she's not a 'teacher' - that's the parents' role. When looking at places we could go after I retired from the Army, several states were off the list since they do stupid stuff like require standardized testing for homeschool kids every year... when only requiring it for public school kids in 4th/8th/12th grades, having to 'register as a charter school'... and other stupid requirements. School portability is the camel's nose under the tent for getting government regulation into private, parochial, and homeschool education. We don't want portability, because the next step is regulation. We don't want to take .gov money in lieu of sending our kids to public school, because the next step is always regulation. Think gun laws guys...

I don't have a problem paying taxes to help fund public schools for parents who can't afford to have a stay-at-home parent tutor their kids. And we should stay involved with the local school boards so this sort of indoctrination nonsense doesn't shoehorn its way in either. But the best education system for hundreds of years before the age-batched, industrial-revolution era (and now indoctrination center) education model was tutoring. An educated adult teaching a small number of children.

Also, my kids primary and alternate teacher both have concealed carry permits and no restriction on carrying around the kids during periods of instruction. Just sayin.

[Windy Wilson]

Politicians are NOT going to allow the money to go to any 3 toothed bubba that claims to be a school.

I wonder how that could be any different than the current situation, in which the schools, aka indoctrination centers, are only too happy to take the money and indoctrinate the kids. They give lip service to deploring uninvolved parents, but to them, involvement is limited to signing the consent forms and the Report Cards, coming to Back to School Night and whatever they call the one in the Spring, to be told how good the indoctrinee is doing, if only you make sure the homework is done, thereby curtailing any non-approved parental influence. After all, they know better, they've already been through the indoctrination process and can tell you what you have to do to produce good consuming drones.

I know you're being arch and that is a splendid bit of snark, but conceptually, is there much difference at all between the proverbial three-toothed bubba whose yields credulity to religion, and the Teachers' Union Three-toothed bubbas (with better dental insurance than the people who pay her (and elementary teachers mostly identify as female now) salaries who yield Their credulity to the new religion of Leftism and Experts whose "Studies show" whatever new .

[Odahi]

Public schools can be fine. I am a product of El Paso Public Schools. I don't feel shortchanged at all, I've had a good life and my hard times were of my own making. On the other hand, if you want to see public schools at their worst, look at Baltimore Public Schools. They had been touted for years as being among the best in the nation, as shown by students' performance on standardized tests. They had some of the highest per-student expenditures of any public schools in the nation. They also had some of the highest administrative costs of any in the nation. And then there was an investigation by one of the local TV stations. It was discovered that teachers were actually changing the answer sheets on many of the standardized tests. Seventeen of the schools had NO high school seniors who exhibited competence in math. Other subjects were just as bad. There were about that many schools that had no functioning air conditioning, and Some had no heat. The heating problem could be partly due to the school board buying a miracle device that was supposed to eliminate deposits in the pipes by using magnets. Not only did it not work, the money was never recovered, and many heating systems were irreparably damaged. The problems were nothing new. This has been going on for decades. It wasn't until the last few years that there were any elected members of the school board. Prior to the referendum requiring two elected board members, they were all appointed. It wasn't a highly-paid job, but many people got quite wealthy by pillaging the budget. Generations of Baltimore children were deprived of any meaningful education. The state of Maryland supplies approximately 60% of Baltimore Public Schools' funding, because the tax base in Baltimore has collapsed. One year, the school system reported to Annapolis that they had lost $25 million. Not wasted, not embezzled, just lost. There was no investigation, no one was fired, and Annapolis gave them another 25 million. I was never a resident of Baltimore, we lived south of the city. I'm one of the heartless racists who thinks that children in that school system have been horribly wronged for generations, and no one has been called to account. Ever, The last time Baltimore had a Republican mayor was 1966. He was elected in 1962. You can't even find out what the party is of the members of the city council, and the school board is equally shrouded. One-party rule for that long has been a very, very bad thing for the people of Baltimore. Except for those in charge, of course. And as I said to one of my friends at work, "Don't believe me, go look it up." FOX45 was the TV station that did the investigation.