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Thanks for the link. You clearly have a subscription since that site gave me a warning that I have to pay-up if I want to view any more articles.

Yeah, it's the Clinton Crime Family, right out of "The Godfather"
As masters of creating and surviving scandal, the Clintons’ MO has always been a rule of lawlessness amid a ubiquity of attorneys. Mafia dons do this too: Make sure to have Family counsel at all the meetings where the nasty stuff gets planned, so when the FBI comes snooping around, you can start blathering about the Sixth Amendment and the sacred right to $1,000/hour confidentiality. Indeed, when the FBI did come calling about her home-brew email-server escapade, Mrs. Clinton even managed to talk the bureau’s complaisant higher-ups into letting her bring her suspected co-conspirators along for her interview by the case agents — after all, they were lawyers!
Yeah, Trump didn't understand how deep the rot went in DC. He should have fired everyone, whether they had a R or D next to their political affiliation.
Of course, it’s hard to fault the FBI too much for such a basic violation of investigative protocols: By the time the former secretary of state was interviewed, the Obama Justice Department had stymied the bureau’s attempts to ask questions of Clinton’s juris-doctor underlings and inspect their computers. The attorney–client privilege was the defense . . . and, with Clinton-friendly law-enforcers running the show, it worked.
This is check. Not yet checkmate until "the Hildabeest" has to answer.
When people are doing something sneaky and potentially illegal — and we should note that defrauding the government is a felony — they often take pains to conceal their connection to it. In miniature, that is what the Sussmann prosecution is about. His alleged lie was the claim that he was bringing derogatory Trump/Russia information to the government not on behalf of any client — just as a good, patriotic citizen and former U.S. national-security official who was trying to help the FBI protect Americans. In reality, Durham alleges, Sussmann was working for the Clinton campaign and Rodney Joffe, a pro-Clinton tech executive who was hoping to score a cybersecurity gig in the anticipated Hillary administration.
As they say "hoisted upon their own petard":
When people are doing something sneaky and potentially illegal — and we should note that defrauding the government is a felony — they often take pains to conceal their connection to it. In miniature, that is what the Sussmann prosecution is about. His alleged lie was the claim that he was bringing derogatory Trump/Russia information to the government not on behalf of any client — just as a good, patriotic citizen and former U.S. national-security official who was trying to help the FBI protect Americans. In reality, Durham alleges, Sussmann was working for the Clinton campaign and Rodney Joffe, a pro-Clinton tech executive who was hoping to score a cybersecurity gig in the anticipated Hillary administration.
So Durham is giving the Clinton campaign protection under "attorney-client privilege"! So he is saying that Sussman is lying (felony) by saying he wasn't working for the Clinton campaign. Since he was working for the Clinton campaign, the information is protected under "attorney-client privilege".

So Sussman is screwed
It’s a tight spot for Sussmann: Unless the court finds some reason to rule in his favor, his only way around this evidence would be to stipulate that he was working for the Clinton campaign when he told the FBI he wasn’t working for the Clinton campaign. That would make for an awfully quick false-statements trial.
So Sussman may just take the fall on a felony perjury charge, but what about Joffe?
Let’s connect some dots. Joffe is still the subject of a criminal investigation, ergo Durham is still investigating. That means additional indictments are still a possibility: The prosecutor is not down to report-writing yet. A big part of what Durham is still investigating is whether the Trump/Russia information from Sussmann, Joffe, and the Clinton campaign was not only weak evidence but a willful effort to hoodwink the government into conducting criminal and foreign-counterintelligence investigations of Trump. This comes against the backdrop of the Steele dossier, the preposterous set of faux intelligence reports also produced by the Clinton campaign (via Perkins Coie, which retained Fusion GPS, which retained Christopher Steele, who recruited the aforementioned Danchenko). The campaign operatives pressed the dossier on the FBI (which pressed it on the FISA Court), as well as on the State Department — and the CIA, again, is also said to have regarded the Trump/Russia allegations as nonsense. And finally, Durham has already concluded that all roads lead to the Clinton campaign. That could spell big problems for Mrs. Clinton and her minions if Durham ultimately concludes that the Trump/Russia information was proffered with intent to deceive the government.

Durham’s investigation is not over. After three years, it may be getting very interesting.
As someone else noted on another thread, I'll believe it when I see indictments.

And I will still consider it a whitewash of "Warren Commission" levels unless "the Hildabeest" is one of those indicted.
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Sussman probably takes the perjury rap, gets a slap on the wrist from the DOJ, and possibly becomes the latest tragic Arkancide if it looks like he's thinking of singing.
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MiddleAgedKen wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:27 pm Sussman probably takes the perjury rap, gets a slap on the wrist from the DOJ, and possibly becomes the latest tragic Arkancide if it looks like he's thinking of singing.
The boys from Little Rock may just pay him a visit, simply to ensure he doesn't talk. "Preemptive Suicide". Look what they did to Epstein - he merely got taken into custody for them to act. I'm still surprised they haven't wacked Maxwell
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It looks like Marc Elias, who is much closer to the Clinton Campaign, is the real target. He is Sussman's boss: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... much-more/
It looks like John Durham is using the prosecution of Sussmann, and all the details within the case, to box in a very easy prosecution of Michael Sussmann’s boss, the infamous Democrat lawyer, Marc Elias. Read the filing and you see how Perkins Coie and Marc Elias are clearly and purposefully outlined as having the major role in the activity of Sussmann. All prosecutorial roads against Sussmann are leading to Elias.
In military parlance, this is a flanking maneuver:
Given the ideological and political nature of the DOJ under AG Merrick Garland and Deputy AG Lisa Monaco, it makes sense that John Durham would not and importantly, could not, go directly at Marc Elias.

Marc Elias is the biggest Lawfare fish in the world of Democrats. He is the primary legal mind and legal entity around the entire Democrat apparatus from elections to electoral maps. Elias is the leftists modern legal Moses.

If John Durham was viewed to be targeting Elias directly, his special counsel investigation would be shut down tomorrow, regardless of political backlash. Marc Elias is to outside government as Barack Obama is to inside government.
Yeah, keep watching...
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Durham gives his argument for denying "Attorney-Client privilege" to Clinton Campaign: https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-cl ... out-to?s=r

Clinton campaign is still standing behind the "attorney-client privilege" shield:'
The Clinton Campaign (including Robby Mook and John Podesta), Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie, Rodney Joffe, and the DNC are fighting to keep these e-mails and records secret, reasoning Fusion’s “role was to provide consulting services in support of the legal advice attorneys at Perkins Coie were providing to” the Clinton Campaign.
Durham says "not if you are mis-representing what you are paying the lawyer for":
Today, Special Counsel Durham addressed those arguments by providing to the court the FEC findings where the agency found “probable cause to believe” the DNC and Hillary for America violated the law by hiding the real purpose of payments meant for Fusion GPS as “legal and compliance consulting.”
I'm still waiting for indictments...
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The judge in the case has agreed to review the records in dispute in camera: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ege-battle
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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/hil ... testifies/

Campaign manager testifies that she approved leaking the allegations.
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