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Interesting, happened recently up in Idaho:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=835_1344412426

Looks like he had a hard time ever getting off the ground.

CByrneIV wrote:I have a hard time believing a licensed pilot would be that fucking stupid.

No shit........

That went south as soon as the aircraft started to roll down the runway. Combining a grossed out aircraft and high density altitude/terrain usually has predictable results.

What Chris said.

I'd have rejected that take-off even before I got in the aircraft.

I have exactly 20 hours of real world flight training ( and about 10,000 useless hours in flight sims ) but even I could see what was going to happen.

I know from those 20 hours that the actual performance of an aircraft like that which is getting long in the tooth is nothing like what the book says. Years spent operating off grass strips will have dented the leading edges of the wing with debris, so they are no longer the shape the designer intended and the engine won't be putting out the rated horsepower unless it was changed very recently.
The C 152's I flew could barely make 5000ft with two people on board.

He should have known about the updrafts and downdrafts ( or rather he should have cared ). The grass field I flew from had a river and then farmland at the end of the main runway, the effect of flying over the water made you sink and the farmland caused an updraft which made you rise. It's not a subtle effect in a light aircraft, it should get your attention. It bloody well did mine, especially on approach to a very short strip with no runoff.

CByrneIV wrote:That pilot deserves to be drug out, beaten severely about the head and shoulders, then shot.

It looked like he got two out of the three, not necessarily in that order.

Termite wrote:

CByrneIV wrote:I have a hard time believing a licensed pilot would be that fucking stupid.

No shit........

Pilots have their 10% just like everyone else, and I'm sorry, but you're stuck with them just like the rest of us are stuck with our's.

I read elsewhere that the pilot is commercial, and is rated on single engine, multi, helos, all sorts of stuff.

They do say though that there is a dangerous period in a flying career when you have got enough hours to think you know it all, but not enough to realise you actually DON'T know it all.

But fuck it, no, that guy was a moron or taking too many of the pills I use when my legs hurt

CByrneIV wrote:

308Mike wrote:

Termite wrote: No shit........

Pilots have their 10% just like everyone else, and I'm sorry, but you're stuck with them just like the rest of us are stuck with our's.

See, the thing is... after even the most basic flight training, im surprised the person who did this has sufficient mental capacity to walk upright.

This guy didnt just violate every rule ever MERCILESSLY AND CEASLESSLY GROUND INTO OUR BRAINS from day 1 of flight school... He seemingly had no idea he was even in any kind of trouble until he actually hit the damn trees.

The only way i can even comprehend that level of obliviousness, is chemical impairment.

While I was watching and listening to the recording, I was telling my wife, I don't hear him saying ANYTHING to his passengers, like "HANG ON, WE'RE GOING IN!!", or even "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday!!!" - I can hear camera noises, and some other faint noises, and I assume most of the sounds are being leveled out by the recorder's noise/volume filter, so to be heard, they'd have to be shouting. But I'd DAMNED SURE BE SHOUTING!!!

While watching the roll-out to rotation, he can't even keep it on the hard-packed ground (was he battling heavy cross-winds? Doubtful as his control didn't indicate as such), he plane was obviously overloaded and when he got high enough, how long would he have to fly to burn off enough fuel so he could gain enough altitude to go over hills, small mountain passes, etc., after all, even if you burn off fuel, that's limited to only so many lbs, so what kind of landing strip is he going to use and what's the condition of his landing gear??

Guys like this give pilots bad names.