Thank you Jenny McCarthy...

[Netpackrat]

For those who don't know - Tristan de Cunha is the most remotely habited island in the world.

Interesting. I looked over their Wikipedia page... It would seem that they have a fairly limited gene pool there.

[Old Grafton]

No WalMart, no UPS, no FedEx, no quick trips to the local beer-dock, no place to buy a new F350 dually 4wd diesel....

If you want "quiet" this would be the place.

[Old Grafton]

And stay away from Black Bart's ewe.....

[MarkD]

I wasn't vaccinated, but when I was born (1963) it was much less common to be vaccinated for "childhood illnesses". I, and most of the kids I knew had mumps, measles, rubella, chicken pox and whooping cough. In fact it was common, when one neighborhood kid got (say) measles for the mothers to bring their kids over to "get it over with". I'm not aware of anyone in my school group who suffered ill effects from having had the diseases. I WAS vaccinated against polio and smallpox.

Not saying it's the right way to do it, but the diseases were still common enough then that few people made it thru grade school without catching them. I had little to say about whether I was vaccinated, and I'm now of course immune to all these diseases thru the natural process.

Now, I think you have to be nuts not to vaccinate children (although I know people who don't).

Speaking of Ms McCarthy, how does someone whose claim to fame was her willingness to disrobe so guys could pleasure themselves to her pictures become an expert on things medical? Why do people pay any attention to her?

[Erik]

I wasn't vaccinated, but when I was born (1963) it was much less common to be vaccinated for "childhood illnesses". I, and most of the kids I knew had mumps, measles, rubella, chicken pox and whooping cough. In fact it was common, when one neighborhood kid got (say) measles for the mothers to bring their kids over to "get it over with". I'm not aware of anyone in my school group who suffered ill effects from having had the diseases. I WAS vaccinated against polio and smallpox.

Not saying it's the right way to do it, but the diseases were still common enough then that few people made it thru grade school without catching them. I had little to say about whether I was vaccinated, and I'm now of course immune to all these diseases thru the natural process.

Pretty much the same here when I grew up. The only ones that was vaccinated for measles when I grew up was girls that hadn't gotten it yet at age 13, and it was only done to protect their future babies. As I recall, there was only two or three girls in my class that needed to be vaccinated. I think the general view was that vaccination was something to be avoided if possible, and only done for potentially life threatening diseases, which measles wasn't considered as. I checked just now and it seems that view changed, everyone born in the country since the 80's have been vaccinated.

[TheArmsman]

Hmmm, http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/12/magaz ... sland.html might be a good place to stash them.

[Aglifter]

The vaccines are not as strong, usually, as contracting the illness, but lower risk - mumps etc had a decently high rate of causing sterility/second infections in adults causing miscarriage, etc.

Just letting kids get sick is not as good of a solution.

[MarkD]

Just letting kids get sick is not as good of a solution.

Agreed, but back then there were issues with the vaccines too. My brother (born in 1950) contracted the worst case of the mumps my mother's doctor had ever seen, apparently from the vaccine, which made my mother determined not to vaccinate me when I came along. Nowadays, not so much.

[evan price]

Just letting kids get sick is not as good of a solution.

Agreed, but back then there were issues with the vaccines too. My brother (born in 1950) contracted the worst case of the mumps my mother's doctor had ever seen, apparently from the vaccine, which made my mother determined not to vaccinate me when I came along. Nowadays, not so much.

Here in Central Ohio we are in the middle of a mumps epidemic. Started at Ohio State University and they have over a hundred cases so far and more every day.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... swell.html
If the anti-vac people want to volunteer for polio and rubella and all the other big 18th century experience tour, let them but if they vector to someone else they should be charged with 2nd degree murder.

[Aesop]

Murder is kind of specific as to requiring an actual body, first of all, and a conscious desire to inflict death.
However, reckless endangerment, plus civil penalties, are well within the purview of current law.

Personally, I'd simply confine them (and bill them for full cost) in some suitable prison for the public welfare, and sanitize their former digs, if necessary by fire.
This is under the "stupidity should be painful" doctrine of government intervention.

Under the heading of "Darwinism in action" one common complication of post-puberty mumps in males is orchitis, leading occasionally to permanent sterility.
So at least a number of the adult stupid subsequently cannot, in fact, breed.