Why the classics are worth studying

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I find the trend of criticizing the "whiteness" of Greek and Roman classics somewhat amusing.

100 years or so ago, immigrants from Italy and Greece weren't considered "white" by the powers that be (mostly graduates of Ivy League schools that still emphasized the classics). The influx of "darker" Eastern and Southern European people was part of the reason that Eugenics was so popular with the early Progressives.

In many ways "White" has become like "Fascist": a term applied to something you don't like (and probably want to destroy)
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randy wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:21 pm 100 years or so ago, immigrants from Italy and Greece weren't considered "white" by the powers that be
Not just them - the irish weren't considered "white" until the 1950s - this goes back to when the irish catholics first started showing up in enmasse in the 1840s the were largely uneducated, illeterate, and usually didn't speak english. The fact that they were catholic was just icing on the cake. In fact, irish catholics in Chicago in the 1850s were the bottom rung of society, they were held even in more disdain than free blacks....
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HTRN wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:38 pm
randy wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:21 pm 100 years or so ago, immigrants from Italy and Greece weren't considered "white" by the powers that be
....when the irish catholics first started showing up in enmasse in the 1840s the were largely uneducated, illeterate, and usually didn't speak english.....In fact, irish catholics in Chicago in the 1850s were the bottom rung of society, they were held even in more disdain than free blacks....
I guess some things don't change much :D
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randy wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:21 pm I find the trend of criticizing the "whiteness" of Greek and Roman classics somewhat amusing.
Using "whiteness" as a pejorative is a clear form of racism that needs to be called out. Of course the Asians are not getting on board the woke train so they are being thrown into the "white" bucket too..

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I started reading the classics about 2008 or so. It's been good for me as a person. That's all I need to know.
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