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No Bad Students

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:43 pm
by skb12172
Only bad teachers. This hippy horseshit is making the rounds again. I find it usually has two sources...

1) Kids fresh out of their Education degree programs.

2) People who have never taught professionally in their lives.

Discuss...

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:12 pm
by Netpackrat
3) Parents of lazy/undisciplined little turds.

4) Peter-Principled school administrators.

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:32 pm
by randy
5) People with no children (no matter how good your kids are, they will interact with other kids who aren't which means you will as well)

6) People with no experience in working with kids in any capacity (Scouts, athletics, youth groups, etc.)

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:04 pm
by Rich
Hey, I was that kid! :mrgreen:

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:36 am
by slowpoke
Its better to have no teacher then. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fr ... rge-survey
You don't want to be anti science do you? Get rid of teachers, for the children! :ugeek:

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:26 am
by skb12172
You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:24 pm
by slowpoke
skb12172 wrote:You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.
It turns out thats not any more of an issue than regular schooled children
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new ... 180952613/

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:41 am
by BDK
Not surprised at all. The vast majority of public schooling is a colossal waste of time, energy and resources.

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:46 pm
by g-man
slowpoke wrote:
skb12172 wrote:You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.
It turns out thats not any more of an issue than regular schooled children
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new ... 180952613/
Does. Not. Compute. To wit:
And, says KQED, unschooled kids did report having trouble with math and, as a group, disproportionately favored careers in the "creative arts."
Does not align with:
Many of the unschooled kids, however, did follow their passions into technical fields: “half of the men and about 20 percent of the women,” says KQED, went in to fields that required a substantial background in science, technology or math.
National average for bachelor's graduates is 40% in STEM for men, and 28% for women. So according to their data, boys chose STEM fields in college at a higher rate than average, and girls at a slightly lower rate. Neither of which indicates significant trouble with math, nor a predilection for the creative arts. You'd think a 'science writer' with a B.Sc. in 'physical science' would have less trouble with those maths...

Re: No Bad Students

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:48 am
by slowpoke
g-man wrote:
slowpoke wrote:
skb12172 wrote:You could end up with a lot of gaps in your education that way. I would at least check them against the GED guidelines.
It turns out thats not any more of an issue than regular schooled children
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new ... 180952613/
Does. Not. Compute. To wit:
And, says KQED, unschooled kids did report having trouble with math and, as a group, disproportionately favored careers in the "creative arts."
Does not align with:
Many of the unschooled kids, however, did follow their passions into technical fields: “half of the men and about 20 percent of the women,” says KQED, went in to fields that required a substantial background in science, technology or math.
National average for bachelor's graduates is 40% in STEM for men, and 28% for women. So according to their data, boys chose STEM fields in college at a higher rate than average, and girls at a slightly lower rate. Neither of which indicates significant trouble with math, nor a predilection for the creative arts. You'd think a 'science writer' with a B.Sc. in 'physical science' would have less trouble with those maths...
Doesnt change my point though. I dont actually agree with the unschooling principle; Its just that everything is better than the prussian school system.