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As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:59 am
by 308Mike
Linkarooni (FoxNews.com):
The war on men
By Suzanne Venker
Published November 26, 2012 | FoxNews.com

The battle of the sexes is alive and well. According to Pew Research Center, the share of women ages eighteen to thirty-four that say having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives rose nine percentage points since 1997 – from 28 percent to 37 percent. For men, the opposite occurred. The share voicing this opinion dropped, from 35 percent to 29 percent.

Believe it or not, modern women want to get married. Trouble is, men don’t.

The so-called dearth of good men (read: marriageable men) has been a hot subject in the media as of late. Much of the coverage has been in response to the fact that for the first time in history, women have become the majority of the U.S. workforce. They’re also getting most of the college degrees. The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women.

As the author of three books on the American family and its intersection with pop culture, I’ve spent thirteen years examining social agendas as they pertain to sex, parenting, and gender roles. During this time, I’ve spoken with hundreds, if not thousands, of men and women. And in doing so, I’ve accidentally stumbled upon a subculture of men who’ve told me, in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married. When I ask them why, the answer is always the same.

Women aren’t women anymore.

To say gender relations have changed dramatically is an understatement. Ever since the sexual revolution, there has been a profound overhaul in the way men and women interact. Men haven’t changed much – they had no revolution that demanded it – but women have changed dramatically.

In a nutshell, women are angry. They’re also defensive, though often unknowingly. That’s because they’ve been raised to think of men as the enemy. Armed with this new attitude, women pushed men off their pedestal (women had their own pedestal, but feminists convinced them otherwise) and climbed up to take what they were taught to believe was rightfully theirs.

Now the men have nowhere to go.

It is precisely this dynamic – women good/men bad – that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes. Yet somehow, men are still to blame when love goes awry. Heck, men have been to blame since feminists first took to the streets in the 1970s.

But what if the dearth of good men, and ongoing battle of the sexes, is – hold on to your seats – women’s fault?

You’ll never hear that in the media. All the articles and books (and television programs, for that matter) put women front and center, while men and children sit in the back seat. But after decades of browbeating the American male, men are tired. Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.

Contrary to what feminists like Hanna Rosin, author of The End of Men, say, the so-called rise of women has not threatened men. It has pissed them off. It has also undermined their ability to become self-sufficient in the hopes of someday supporting a family. Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families – it’s in their DNA. But modern women won’t let them.

It’s all so unfortunate – for women, not men. Feminism serves men very well: they can have sex at hello and even live with their girlfriends with no responsibilities whatsoever.

It’s the women who lose. Not only are they saddled with the consequences of sex, by dismissing male nature they’re forever seeking a balanced life. The fact is, women need men’s linear career goals – they need men to pick up the slack at the office – in order to live the balanced life they seek.

So if men today are slackers, and if they’re retreating from marriage en masse, women should look in the mirror and ask themselves what role they’ve played to bring about this transformation.

Fortunately, there is good news: women have the power to turn everything around. All they have to do is surrender to their nature – their femininity – and let men surrender to theirs.

If they do, marriageable men will come out of the woodwork.

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:30 am
by slowpoke
Suzanne Venker on women’s rights, men’s responsibilities, and why she divorced her first husband.

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/29 ... t-husband/

Just because she knows there is a war on men doesn't mean she isn't part of it too.

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:10 am
by Jered
Maybe those guys that have a sock with a smiley face on it for a girlfriend have the right idea.

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:15 am
by arctictom
Their is a fundamental problem here and its not going to end well for those that don't get it , as we have less resources as a country who will protect family's (women and children specifically) spineless metrosexuals ? All 4 of my children get this, it is nessary to the species to survive, ooooooo, this might ultimately help , crusty mean masculin men with tesorstorone as opposed to tapioca in their blood might become a popular trend. Could this be a good thing?

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:31 am
by slowpoke
arctictom wrote:Their is a fundamental problem here and its not going to end well for those that don't get it , as we have less resources as a country who will protect family's (women and children specifically) spineless metrosexuals ? All 4 of my children get this, it is nessary to the species to survive, ooooooo, this might ultimately help , crusty mean masculin men with tesorstorone as opposed to tapioca in their blood might become a popular trend. Could this be a good thing?
The problem with that thinking is that those crusty mean masculine men are treated by society as a means to women and children's ends at best. Morally they deserve to be treated as an ends and as valuable on their own. It's still better than treating these men as irrecoverably broken like the hard core misandrists but still doesn't treat them as having inherent value of their own.

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:25 am
by Yogimus
Men don't give a damn.

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:27 am
by arctictom
Yogimus wrote:Men don't give a damn.
Pretty much, my concern is about women and children that are going to experience something I wouldn't wish on any one

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:48 am
by Jered
Women sense my power, and the seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, but I do deny them my essence.

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:24 am
by TheIrishman
Sorry, but she's got it all wrong. We're avoiding marrying them because the system is completely skewed in their favor. I don't care if a woman makes more money than me or has a higher education. I care that if she decides to become a vindictive bitch, one phone call and a bull shit accusation and I'm suddenly staring down the barrel of a TRO. No evidence, no witnesses, no chance to defend myself, just her word trumping mine because I'm an evil man. Divorce courts are skewed toward the women, custody is skewed towards woman, the whole child support system is skewed towards them. I have a friend who lost his license almost every other month because his ex would get mad and tell the court he didn't send the check. He would go before the court every time and show the judge a canceled check(cashed before the complaint was made) and was told he had no recourse. $300 a year in restoration fees just to get back a license that should have never been taken in the first place, court fees, plus loss of a days pay to go to court. Why was she not responsible for those fees?

Screw'm. They made their bed, now they can lay in it. And to those women that would say "we're not all like that", until you do something about the ones who are, you're complicit.

Re: As Guys Have Known ALL ALONG, The WAR ON MEN!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:45 am
by Darrell
That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth.--Jayne Cobb