blackeagle603 wrote:I'd rather be reasonably bright and prudent with my spending, saving, investing and debt avoidance like John Adams than a chronically overspent, living beyond my means, odying mortgaged to my eyeballs financial fool genius like Tom Jefferson whose estate went straight to liquidation to pay it all off.
Much as we might quibble over details.... YES. I agree strongly enough to start shouting.
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blackeagle603 wrote:I'd rather be reasonably bright and prudent with my spending, saving, investing and debt avoidance like John Adams than a chronically overspent, living beyond my means, odying mortgaged to my eyeballs financial fool genius like Tom Jefferson whose estate went straight to liquidation to pay it all off.
Much as we might quibble over details.... YES. I agree strongly enough to start shouting.
There seems to be little correlation and perhaps even an inverse relationship between genius and financial and life outcomes.
I wonder if there's something like a Taguchi loss function that could describe the it... At some point getting much higher IQ starts to work against you (or a least demand more of the rest of you as a person). It's sort of a Cosworth Vega vs. King Kong 454 Vega thing (now I'm really dating myself). One fairly matches the rest of the vehicle, the latter puts on a good show but completely overwhelms the suspension and tires.
Sort of like how back in the day the 125's in MX could put up faster laps than the open class bikes and with the right, light rider run with the 250's. I wonder what ever became of Brad Lackey...?
There may be some ideal point on the curve where you're smart enough that you're got no excuse for not doing real well, but, not so top heavy with IQ that it risks you being sucked into putting so much stock in your native intelligence that you think you can neglect essential bits of life wisdom and personal responsibility. There are essential social and workplace behaviors that no amount of IQ frees you from.
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I've seen many people lament the fact that despite being marked as "gifted" as children, it only set them up for failure. They're very bright indeed, but so much early praise for exceeding every mediocre standard set them up for failure the moment they ran into something they couldn't handle.
This isn't quite the same as the "everyone gets a trophy" education. These were the winners. Overstating their successes led to fragile egos and pessimism.
As it turns out, an enthusiastic "Good job, keep it up!" is far more constructive than saying "you're so smart!"
A) there's more types of intelligence than IQ (Hence the old lawyer joke about " hope your opponents will all be Yale grads - Yale lawyers are notoriously bad - Harvard isn't much better - but Columbia attys are some sharp cookies)
B) at a certain point, money loses interest for most people.
Now, I had a rather nice childhood - but all I really what is to comfortably raise a family on a ranch - my brother has the same goal - and have interesting work to do.
Jets/yachts/helicopters etc don't do it for me - and it's more fun to race an old hulk than a new Ferrari.
There was an interesting study about gifted children struggling because they aren't praised for hard work/forced to work.
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blackeagle603 wrote:
Sort of like how back in the day the 125's in MX could put up faster laps than the open class bikes and with the right, light rider run with the 250's. I wonder what ever became of Brad Lackey...?
Brings back memories of a tricked CR 500 I had many moons ago. That bike excelled in open spaces... on the track or in the woods it was almost impossible to control.
Jericho941 wrote:I've seen many people lament the fact that despite being marked as "gifted" as children, it only set them up for failure. They're very bright indeed, but so much early praise for exceeding every mediocre standard set them up for failure the moment they ran into something they couldn't handle.
This isn't quite the same as the "everyone gets a trophy" education. These were the winners. Overstating their successes led to fragile egos and pessimism.
As it turns out, an enthusiastic "Good job, keep it up!" is far more constructive than saying "you're so smart!"
Aargh, I wish I had a less vague memory. A few years back that concept was one of the ideas of the moment a few years back, there was some book out and a few prominent articles. If only I could produce cites or links. Anyway, the idea stayed with me, it tied in several things (good and bad) from my own experience and definitely has the ring of truth.
Also, children learn laziness from their parents. They're energetic, curious and eager to please by nature. There are always things they don't want to do, but it's not because they're lazy.
Maybe we're just jaded, but your villainy is not particularly impressive. -Ennesby
If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. -Unknown
Sanity is the process by which you continually adjust your beliefs so they are predictively sound. -esr
Aglifter wrote:A) there's more types of intelligence than IQ (Hence the old lawyer joke about " hope your opponents will all be Yale grads - Yale lawyers are notoriously bad - Harvard isn't much better - but Columbia attys are some sharp cookies)
B) at a certain point, money loses interest for most people.
Now, I had a rather nice childhood - but all I really what is to comfortably raise a family on a ranch - my brother has the same goal - and have interesting work to do.
Jets/yachts/helicopters etc don't do it for me - and it's more fun to race an old hulk than a new Ferrari.
There was an interesting study about gifted children struggling because they aren't praised for hard work/forced to work.
Heh, there is a notorious case here in KY from years ago, where "the corporation" had Harvard lawyers, while the "little guy" had a lawyer who graduated from the Chase School of Law at Northern Kentucky University…one of the least regarded law schools accredited by the ABA. He had attended there because of their night program, which allowed him to pursue a JD while also working full-time as a Kentucky State Trooper.
The NKU lawyer wiped the floor with the chaps from Hah-Vud. His explanation was that he had access to the same law books and had taken the same bar exam they had. There was no reason he shouldn't prevail, especially since he felt his client was in the right. I'm sure their arrogance probably led them to underestimate him, if I may hazard a guess.
There must be an end to this intimidation by those who come to this great country, but reject its culture.
It's also "Ivy League JDs", excluding Columbia's shark tank, are taught what "law" should be, and theories of jurisprudence, etc...
They are not taught, in general, to be lawyers. (Note, this is in general - two of the most incompetent morons I ever met to have passed the bar were Harvard and Yale law grads - but Cruz is also Harvard law, and the Harvard law journal can be well done.
Yale is the butt of many jokes though.,
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