Star Trek: Into Darkness (spoilers)

[Aesop]

I lose no sleep worrying about the legions of fan-freaks or their fetishes, but when you resurrect a series, some homage has to be paid to the conventions that made it work.

You can't remake The Three Musketeers and make Richelieu the hero, and you can't rewrite a Grimm Bros. fairytale where the heroic wolf gets the girl (in any way you choose to interpret that phrase).
Unless you're simply a money-grubbing @$$hole packaging schlock to buy a nice beach home, in which case calling a spade a spade is common courtesy.

[Yogimus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uxTpyCdriY

[Darrell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uxTpyCdriY

You never fail to disturb me, Yogi.

[Highspeed]

You've confused the wrapping with the present.

No I haven't. It's simply another crappy soap opera, set in a very unrealistic version of space travel.

" This is what we on Earth call a 'kiss' " says Captain Kirk as he sticks his tongue down the throat of some blue faced alien honey wearing sparkly hot pants and go-go boots like she's dressed up for a Jefferson Airplane gig at the Fillmore in 1967.

If anything it's got worse as it progressed, a friend of mine watched that ' Next Generation' stuff all the time and I would make him turn it off the TV whenever I visited his house. Oh, the androids called 'Data' - now that's clever if you are maybe 8 years old.
Plus all that " Deus Ex Machina " shit the writers specialised in - if you can't bring the plot to a conclusion in 50 minutes then just have some tri-dimensional warp space aliens sort it all out for you. And there's always a little moral lesson in there, courtesy of the liberal writers.

There are only three good movies about mankind in space :- Marooned, Apollo 13 and Alien

[Aesop]

TNG was to Star Trek as butter is to butterfly.
And I'd suggest you look at what passed for TV in 1966, and compare and contrast the original series with everything else.
You'd need a search & rescue team to find much that even survived into syndication, let alone with any legs, and you'd need a magnifying glass to find anything sci-fi.

[mekender]

As someone that has watched EVERY Star Trek film and show episode except for the animated series, I found the twist on the story line of ST II very interesting. Yes, it is hard to stomach some of the differences but I personally found it to be a pretty good homage while also creating a new story for those that were not familiar with the original movies.

In case any of you forgot, there were plenty of references to modern human behavior... TOS was basically that the entire time. They tackled many of the issues of the day using a SCI-FI world, something that likely could not have been done nearly as well in other genres. So it seems only natural that they could and would tackle the idea of domestic terrorism in today's interpretation of the franchise.

Really, I don't think that Roddenberry would have had all that much of a problem with the story line, he did after all write the stories that became Andromeda and Earth: Final Conflict (Which I have not seen). In addition there were dozens if not hundreds of novels produced before his death that were all presumably things he did not have much of a huge problem with. I do not for a minute believe that his vision would have excluded stories like the one that ST:ID tells... From reading the link below, he was known for changing things he did not like and for imagining that things both were and were not part of the universe he created.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_canon

[mekender]

I guess I'm just a Star Trek nerd, bit I still can't get past the opening seen of of Abrams 2009 reboot. I can't figure out how the USS Kelvin got into to deep space with only one warp nacelle.

However, not to fear JJ Abrams will be bringing lens flares to Star Wars next.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Freedom_class

[MiddleAgedKen]

The original "Federation destroyer" from the old Star Fleet Technical Manual was a single-nacelle design. It was justifiably criticized for being underpowered (pretty much had to stop moving to power the photons, as those of us who remember the original Star Fleet Battles hex-and-counter game may recall).

[Rich]

The subsequent incarnations got even worse, apart from that girl with the big tits, Seven of Borg or something ? nice baps. Not nice enough for me to watch that fucking bullshit though.
Fucking Trekkies...

Jeri Ryan, in the role of Seven of Nine. Actress was married then divorced from Chicago politician Jack Ryan, who was then running for the US Senate. Divorce records were unsealed, revealing some unusually explicit aspects that helped Ryan's opponent, one Barack Obama.

Remarkable how the worm turns, isn't it?

[evan price]

There is a reason there oughtta be a PSA telling parents that their small children, if they enjoy My Little Pony, are not Bronies, they are the intended audience. Because little kids googling Brony stuff results in little kids seeing cartoon horse porn.

In the grim darkness of current events, there is only porn.

Whoah, whoah there buddy. I *am* a Brony, and as is quite common in any genre, you are confusing genuine affection for the artistic styling and production values of the series MLP:FiM with the stuff we call "Clop"...aka, the Rule 34 stuff. And I have to say that for any genre- cartoon, live action, whatever- Rule 34 applies and you have to filter that garbage out.

Not too long ago someone (Maybe CByrne?) posted a link to, and confessed to enjoying, Batman: The Animated Series (the originals) yet nobody accused anybody of some perverted purpose for enjoyment of children's cartoons.

I like many cartoons- which are aimed for kids- because they are well written, well animated, and have good voice talent.