The Walking Dead

[Jericho941]

Huh. I don't think it's actually an Abrams, now that I've seen the show. It looks like some other kind of tank, possibly with a few prop shop add-ons to make it look like one (Hollywood did this with T-34s to make the Tiger tank in Saving Private Ryan, for example). Part of this is the turret size and shape, another is the fact that it apparently has an escape hatch on the bottom, which the Abrams doesn't have.

But if it's abandoned the crew probably used thermite grenades on everything they couldn't carry.

Why? Not like the zombies could use it.

[Evyl Robot]

Well, as of episode 2, I'd say the series is full of win.

[moose42]

But if it's abandoned the crew probably used thermite grenades on everything they couldn't carry.

Why? Not like the zombies could use it.

The SOP for abandoning an M1 in hostile territory is to put a thermite grenade in the breech of the cannon, on the computers, and in the ammo storage compartments. Doesn't matter if the hostile territory involves rag heads or zombies.

Apparently TWD didn't have DOD support. Otherwise they would have had Blackhawks instead of Hueys.

[Langenator]

But if it's abandoned the crew probably used thermite grenades on everything they couldn't carry.

Why? Not like the zombies could use it.

The SOP for abandoning an M1 in hostile territory is to put a thermite grenade in the breech of the cannon, on the computers, and in the ammo storage compartments. Doesn't matter if the hostile territory involves rag heads or zombies.

Apparently TWD didn't have DOD support. Otherwise they would have had Blackhawks instead of Hueys.

I actually remarked to my wife that the Huey outside the hospital (with the Cav sabres on the nose) looked like it was left over from Apocalypse Now.

I was also pondering, since they're in Atlanta in a part of the year that is not winter, how long it takes in hot weather for a zombie's brain to bake enough to destroy it?

[Rusty Ray]

Caveat: Have yet to see the new series..But:

I am still waiting for a Zombie film worth the subject. The original 'Night of the Living Dead' came close, but Romero should never be let near a camera again. I want to see a film with the following (as I am convinced of this scenario...):

1) Sure, most of the world's Civ. population is taken in the initial and exponential outbreak. Unlike a Romero film, the survivors would be a bit fuckin' smarter than he seems to think we all are. The dumbest are eaten in the initial phases, the smartest tend to hole-up in strongholds - not shopping malls - and wait for (see #3 Below).

2) The only stable Government is on the shape of carrier groups you Yanks are so fond of. Same goes for the Sub fleet. In my scenario, they (on a final executive order) go into a floating 'mothball' phase where they kind of raft up together and hang about until.....

3) Winter! The survivors best friend. The zombies freeze solid (to maybe not rise again??) leaving the warm blooded of us to run about a) cracking zombies skulls in the snow, and b) getting our shit together bigstyle to either fight back in the Spring, or clean up when the snow thaws.

4) If the Dead get up a walk when thawed, they find the living have made huge compounds (with walls made out of things like shipping containers, or like the Old Berlin wall, bricked up roads and windows) that they can venture forth from and scavenge when and if needed. Think MegaCity One a'la Judge Dredd. The living are also ready to get busy disposing of the dead by luring them into disused buildings and burning them, or herding them into huge landfill pits with modified plant equipment, then crushing the buggers down under by driving over them. Think of a cross between 'Shaun of the Dead' and 'The Shape of Things to Come' but without the comedy and pre-WWII leftwing angst

5) At no point do the survivors turn into dumb fucks that run about in the skimpiest of gear, roundhouse kicking zombies. At no point do the survivors turn into something worse than the zombies because a) We are better than that, b) We are smarter than that, and c) There is more in the soul of Mankind than George A Romero would have us think.

We are just plain better than that.

Phew, glad I got that off my chest.
Cheers - Rusty

[HTRN]

(with walls made out of things like shipping containers, or like the Old Berlin wall, bricked up roads and windows)

You're over thinking it, at least for "shamblers"(28 days later style psychotics are another story). First thing I would do during the zedpacalypse is visit the local fence supply place, acquire some steel fence posts and chainlink, visit the BOSOH and grab lots of bags of Readymix, and wall off the block. Remember, the shamblers can't get through it(especially if you brace it and shoot the ones at the fence everyday), they can't really climb either.

Containers have the advantage of going up fast though - you can block off hundreds of feet in a coupla hours. Fencing requires a coupla days for the concrete to set. The disadvantage is you need heavy equipment, while fencing can be done by a coupla guys and some tools(a power auger would speed things up nicely though.

[randy]

At no point do the survivors turn into something worse than the zombies because a) We are better than that, b) We are smarter than that, and c) [strike]There is more in the soul of Mankind than George A Romero would have us think.[/strike]and Doggone It, People Like Us!

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[Jericho941]

So far you don't really see that in the Walking Dead. We'll see.

However, Ray, trying to bring realism to the Zombie Apocalypse is impossible - with any sort of realism injected into how a zombie apocalypse would work, the concept would die. There's actually no point in holding out until winter, because unless winter's coming up soon, the problem would take care of itself before then. Cracked.com has a pretty good (and funny) write-up on why.

To get right down to it, it's pure horror fantasy, and it's not a fantasy about optimism, the good in people, and triumph in the face of adversity. This is why you have dingbat characters who are too busy squabbling to not get eaten by what should be a minimally threatening foe.

[JAG2955]

(with walls made out of things like shipping containers, or like the Old Berlin wall, bricked up roads and windows)

You're over thinking it, at least for "shamblers"(28 days later style psychotics are another story). First thing I would do during the zedpacalypse is visit the local fence supply place, acquire some steel fence posts and chainlink, visit the BOSOH and grab lots of bags of Readymix, and wall off the block. Remember, the shamblers can't get through it(especially if you brace it and shoot the ones at the fence everyday), they can't really climb either.

Containers have the advantage of going up fast though - you can block off hundreds of feet in a coupla hours. Fencing requires a coupla days for the concrete to set. The disadvantage is you need heavy equipment, while fencing can be done by a coupla guys and some tools(a power auger would speed things up nicely though.

With all of the practice the military got setting up FOBs in Iraq and Afghanistan, small outposts could go up really quick. Google Alaska, Texas, and Jersey Barriers. Heck, you could block off both ends of an overpass, re-supply by helicopter, and be perfectly safe, assuming decent radio communications. You might need a gate at each end to allow refugees to enter/escape route.