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Darrell wrote:
AZMARK wrote:I caught the original on TCM last night. During the intro speial I found out something interesting, the movie was made as a response to High Noon. Appearently, JW felt a western sheriff wouldn't be running around town begging for help from townfolk. He'd do what needed done, with what he had on hand.
I do believe it was Rio Bravo which was John Wayne's answer to High Noon:
High Noon debate
The film was made as a response to High Noon, which is sometimes thought to be an allegory for blacklisting in Hollywood, as well as a critique of McCarthyism, according to Graham.[4] Wayne teamed up with director Howard Hawks to tell the story his way. In Rio Bravo, Chance is surrounded by allies—a deputy recovering from alcoholism (Dude), a young gunfighter (Colorado), an old man (Stumpy), a Mexican innkeeper (Pedro Gonzalez-Gonzalez), his wife (Estelita Rodriguez), and an attractive young woman—and repeatedly turns down aid from anyone he doesn't think is capable of helping him, though in the final shootout they come to help him anyway. "Who'll turn up next?" Wayne asks amid the gunfire, to which Colorado replies: "Maybe the girl with another flower pot."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Bravo_(film)

Rio Bravo was the film on right after True Grit on TCM last night, trust me--I was watching both of them.
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Ooopps! My bad! I was thinking of Rio Lobo.
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I do believe it was Rio Bravo which was John Wayne's answer to High Noon
I thought that was El Dorado? John Wayne, Robert Mitchum, and James Caan.
Ooopps! My bad! I was thinking of Rio Lobo.
The confusion is natural as El Dorado and Rio Lobo were basically remakes of Rio Bravo with some adjustments to the plot line and rearrangement of the characters. In El Dorado the The Duke comes to the aid of a sheriff that can't cut it, and in Rio Lobo he's aiding the locals against a corrupt sheriff.

But it still comes down to one man standing up to evil and having ordinary citizens rally to him for the final battle.

Rio Bravo was the original answer to High Noon, the other two were variations on a theme.

Now that I think of it, I wonder if Eastwood had these 4 movies in mind when he made High Plains Drifter?
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Several of the family went to see the new True Grit on Saturday night. The theater was packed.
True Grit has always been one of my favorite Wayne movies, and only partially due to my young self having a crush on Kim Darby.
I have to admit that, God help me, I liked this one better than the original. Grittier.
Only one major plot deviation: that LaBoeuf & Cogburn split up a couple times. Otherwise the dialog was essentially identical.
The actor, Barry Pepper, playing Ned Pepper, sounded so much like Robert DuVall that I had to take a closer look.
One distraction that really bothered me was how the night scenes were lit. Bright blue lights that allowed for 150 yard rifle shots on a moonless night.
The scene in which a drunken Cogburn tries to prove he's a better marksman than LaBoeuf is not to be missed. It had me ducking in my seat and throwing my arms over my head. Priceless.
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