Epic tech fail... Double Facepalm is ENTIRELY Insufficient

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CByrneIV wrote:
Termite wrote:Exactly how does one do that........accidentally?
Thus my statement above "negligently".

The factory reset routine includes a "wipe all disks" option... 2 drives in the machine, plus backup drive attached by USB.
To go back a little- sounds like time to rearchitect the home network. I try to depend a lot less on local data on the desktop machine, I got burned by that during the IBM Deathstar era.

I have a personal server with a couple of different exportable volumes (both NFS and SMB). The ordinary data volumes the desktop/client systems can automount and keep mounted forever, for convenience, even if it means that a problematic client can trash the volume. The volume on the server for backups is not mounted by default, and clients only mount it when backups are taken. (And only I regularly log in to the server. Someone else in the household has access for emergencies, but they know not to use it while I'm still vertical.)

External/USB backup drives are only attached when backups are being taken, else if you leave them attached fulltime they're really just system disk expansion not backup. And they can get trashed too easily.

Archival snapshots. Every once in a while I create an archival snapshot- these days it's burn to dvd. A long time back I had a tape drive on my server, but that fell out of favor. I always verify my backups, but the one time I needed to restore from a tape the tape was unreadable, of course....

Cloud sites make good suspenders (to back up the belt of course) for either USB external drives, or archival snapshots, or both depending on how you use them. But bandwidth being what it is (always insufficient, and local is always better) I wouldn't treat any cloud storage as anything more than just an extra layer of redundant duplication of local infrastructure.
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Greg wrote:Archival snapshots. Every once in a while I create an archival snapshot- these days it's burn to dvd. A long time back I had a tape drive on my server, but that fell out of favor. I always verify my backups, but the one time I needed to restore from a tape the tape was unreadable, of course....
Watch those burnable DVDs. They decay, oxidize, whatever is going on in there. I've had more than one just become unreadable.
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Cobar wrote:
Greg wrote:Archival snapshots. Every once in a while I create an archival snapshot- these days it's burn to dvd. A long time back I had a tape drive on my server, but that fell out of favor. I always verify my backups, but the one time I needed to restore from a tape the tape was unreadable, of course....
Watch those burnable DVDs. They decay, oxidize, whatever is going on in there. I've had more than one just become unreadable.
Good point. The dyes break down or something, yeah.

Removable media have a usable life, and need to be refreshed (i.e. your data written to new media) periodically. The dvd's don't last as long as tapes, in theory, but I've had better luck in practice. One nice thing about burnable media, is that they're cheap enough to let you take repeated, disposable (shredable :)) snapshots.

Now most people are going to have way too much data to fit on one disk, but for making an extra spare copy of their most critical data, that you can then sit in a safe deposit box for a few years - they're pretty nice. Cheap protection.
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Greg wrote:You stream video 24/7, or are you running a p2p charity, or both? I really wouldn't want to be one of your neighbors, cable ISP here.
Contrary to popular misconception, modern cable ISPs should NOT have any problems with someone using high bandwidth for short periods of time. At my 50meg speed, 350gb comes out to about 15 hours of use in a whole month.
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mekender wrote:
Greg wrote:You stream video 24/7, or are you running a p2p charity, or both? I really wouldn't want to be one of your neighbors, cable ISP here.
Contrary to popular misconception, modern cable ISPs should NOT have any problems with someone using high bandwidth for short periods of time.
Does not match what I see every single day. But I suppose that means I, by definition, do not have a modern cable ISP- which I would believe. Cablevision's been frozen in place for 10 years or so, from what I can tell (their network anyway, not their bill).

Edit: To make it more obvious, yes that may be true but a 'modern cable ISP' is like a unicorn (or a eunuch's horn?) - good luck finding one. Seems like the only modern ISP is FIOS, and they don't seem to want to sell that anymore.
At my 50meg speed, 350gb comes out to about 15 hours of use in a whole month.
How would you go about saturating that pipe, anyway? No single source is going to be able to do that.
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Greg wrote:How would you go about saturating that pipe, anyway? No single source is going to be able to do that.
Multithreaded downloads... uTorrent does that as does my primary source for TV shows, Usenet.

Basically, it splits the download up into concurrent streams, I have my torrent client set to use up to 200 and my newsgroup downloader set to 10.
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mekender wrote:
Greg wrote:How would you go about saturating that pipe, anyway? No single source is going to be able to do that.
Multithreaded downloads... uTorrent does that as does my primary source for TV shows, Usenet.

Basically, it splits the download up into concurrent streams, I have my torrent client set to use up to 200 and my newsgroup downloader set to 10.
Thanks. So that works? Not something I've ever done before, but now I want to try. :)
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Greg wrote:
mekender wrote:
Greg wrote:How would you go about saturating that pipe, anyway? No single source is going to be able to do that.
Multithreaded downloads... uTorrent does that as does my primary source for TV shows, Usenet.

Basically, it splits the download up into concurrent streams, I have my torrent client set to use up to 200 and my newsgroup downloader set to 10.
Thanks. So that works? Not something I've ever done before, but now I want to try. :)
For regular DL's I used to like download accelerator + but I dont use it any more.
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I might suggest that if you are really interested in getting TV shows from the interwebs... A combination of a program called Sick Beard and a second one called SABnzb is great!

You have to have usenet access to use the 2nd one.
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