Challenging certain aspects of gun control based on racial discrimination?

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Challenging certain aspects of gun control based on racial discrimination?

Post by Langenator » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:52 am

Now, I generally think playing the race card is for losers, but bear with me.

The right to keep and bear and bear arms is an enumerated right. The right to vote is not - the Constitution only specifies that it can't be denied based on certain specific criteria.

Now, leftist 'voter rights' groups have challenged voter ID laws on the basis that such laws are racially discriminatory (they almost always assume that racial minorities are poor, and couch their challenges this way.) These challenges have been successful in some federal court circuits.

So why hasn't anyone challenged the ID requirement to buy a gun in those circuits on the same basis, citing their own rulings as precedent? If the requirement to provide ID to exercise one right is racially discriminatory, then that same requirement should be racially discriminatory for other rights as well.

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Re: Challenging certain aspects of gun control based on racial discrimination?

Post by Vonz90 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:34 am

Sure, I enjoy using the Left's tools against them.

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Post by Netpackrat » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:23 am

Even though the roots of most gun control in the US are racist, this tactic won't go anywhere in court "because guns."
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Re: Challenging certain aspects of gun control based on racial discrimination?

Post by Jered » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:21 am

You're expecting logical consistency from gun banners.
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Re: Challenging certain aspects of gun control based on racial discrimination?

Post by Langenator » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:34 am

Well, what I would like is logical consistency from the courts.
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Post by Precision » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:15 pm

Langenator wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:34 am
Well, what I would like is logical consistency from the courts.
So would I, but even with the Trump effect on the courts. He has seated hundreds of judges. still way more than half are lefty nutbags.
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Post by Vonz90 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:04 pm

BTW, at least politically, this is not novel. The fact that the pistol restrictions in Missouri were instituted to keep blacks from getting guns was a definite part of the debate when they were repealed.

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Post by Windy Wilson » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:29 am

One does hope for intellectual and logical consistency cy from judges, that’s supposed to be what got them to the interview in the first place.
Vonze90 and Langenator are correct, the only difficulty is finding the correct plaintiff to avoid the lack of harm restriction on suing.
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Re: Challenging certain aspects of gun control based on racial discrimination?

Post by Jered » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:41 am

According to moonbat rules, if something has a "disparate impact" on race, whether or not it's racially neutral, it's bad.
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