Smart Gun Defeated with $15 Worth of Magnets

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Smart Gun Defeated with $15 Worth of Magnets

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Smart gun isn't smart. :roll:
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I saw that. Either you have a simple electromagnet like this that is quickly defeatable, or you have an overly complicated cammed or multiple actuator system that is much more jam-prone. Guns are tools, and the general object of making 'smarter' tools is to allow their use by dumber operators (i.e. Hardware solutions to a training problem ala the M9...).

Smart guns are stupid.
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Trying to take a fundamentally bad idea and then *make* it work, with sufficiently clever engineering....

That's the path to anvils with 70 moving parts, that need to be wound twice a day.
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Armatix spokesperson Georg Jahnen…argued that the jamming attack actually demonstrates the gun’s safety measures, since it at least failed in a safe way, rather than firing without receiving a signal from the watch.
Emergency life support equipment that fails to perform it’s primary function in an emergency. Yeah, that defines “safe way” to me.
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I am going to go out against the pack a bit and say I actually see a market for something like this. Any government coercion is the wrong way to go (and unconstitutional) but there is a niche for it. It needs to be more reliable than it is now and it needs to be keyed to something not obvious (i.e. not a ring, watch, other external feature that can be taken easily).

Actually, police or particularly prison guards should be the target market. They are both more likely to be in an altercation where getting their weapon stolen is an issue and have the kind of maintenance back up to support it.

I could see a subset of home owners who would want it as a bedside gun that they do not have to worry about a kid / thief / whomever getting a hold of it. (I am not one of those people, but I am sure they are out there.)

Short answer, I am all for innovation. And the basic idea of a weapon that is keyed to the right user is potentially useful in some situations. What we need is federal legislation to preclude states from mandating it.
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Greg wrote:Trying to take a fundamentally bad idea and then *make* it work, with sufficiently clever engineering....

That's the path to anvils with 70 moving parts, that need to be wound twice a day.
Sounds like German engineering...

...wait...

:roll:
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Jered wrote:
Greg wrote:Trying to take a fundamentally bad idea and then *make* it work, with sufficiently clever engineering....

That's the path to anvils with 70 moving parts, that need to be wound twice a day.
Sounds like German engineering...

...wait...

:roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

This particular thing being a product of a German company is just a hilarious bonus.
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