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Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:39 am
by Windy Wilson
What's the matter with Co2? It's the same stuff the miscreants exhale, those wastes of oxygen, food and space.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:20 am
by HTRN
Windy Wilson wrote:What's the matter with Co2? It's the same stuff the miscreants exhale, those wastes of oxygen, food and space.
Because if you vent a tank full of it in a small enclosed space, you stand a non zero chance of killing them.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:34 pm
by Gunnuts
HTRN wrote:
Windy Wilson wrote:What's the matter with Co2? It's the same stuff the miscreants exhale, those wastes of oxygen, food and space.
Because if you vent a tank full of it in a small enclosed space, you stand a non zero chance of killing them.
GSS

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:19 pm
by g-man
HTRN wrote:
Windy Wilson wrote:What's the matter with Co2? It's the same stuff the miscreants exhale, those wastes of oxygen, food and space.
Because if you vent a tank full of it in a small enclosed space, you stand a non zero chance of killing them.
And this is different than a fire suppression system how? Imagine those are perfectly legal... just sayin.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:58 pm
by HTRN
Fire supreession systems are hooked to a temp sensor of some sort, not a motion detector, something that the police will notice. :roll:

If you really want to get creative, use argon(significantly heavier than air) with a push button lock set on the basement side. The argon won't disperse, and as its odorless, i t will have already taken effect. still horribly illegal and begging for a manslaughter charge though.

Personally,one of those pepperspray dispensers with a motion detector and a remote hidden disable sounds like a better idea from a liability standpoint.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:17 pm
by MarkD
HTRN wrote:Fire supreession systems are hooked to a temp sensor of some sort, not a motion detector, something that the police will notice. :roll:

If you really want to get creative, use argon(significantly heavier than air) with a push button lock set on the basement side. The argon won't disperse, and as its odorless, i t will have already taken effect. still horribly illegal and begging for a manslaughter charge though.

Personally,one of those pepperspray dispensers with a motion detector and a remote hidden disable sounds like a better idea from a liability standpoint.

One COULD point out that the police will only notice if they're contacted....

"We found an unidentified corpse in an abandoned building in New Brighton, cause of death appears to be suffocation".

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:01 pm
by Gunnuts
MarkD wrote:
HTRN wrote:Fire supreession systems are hooked to a temp sensor of some sort, not a motion detector, something that the police will notice. :roll:

If you really want to get creative, use argon(significantly heavier than air) with a push button lock set on the basement side. The argon won't disperse, and as its odorless, i t will have already taken effect. still horribly illegal and begging for a manslaughter charge though.

Personally,one of those pepperspray dispensers with a motion detector and a remote hidden disable sounds like a better idea from a liability standpoint.

One COULD point out that the police will only notice if they're contacted....

"We found an unidentified corpse in an abandoned building in New Brighton, cause of death appears to be suffocation".
Gunnuts wrote:
HTRN wrote:
Windy Wilson wrote:What's the matter with Co2? It's the same stuff the miscreants exhale, those wastes of oxygen, food and space.
Because if you vent a tank full of it in a small enclosed space, you stand a non zero chance of killing them.
GSS
Gas Shovel Shutup ;)

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:00 am
by McClarkus
I've been happy with my Fort Knox. Got it in the late 80's for less than $2K and I think it weighs about 900 lbs. It holds what I need in the way of guns and papers. Ammo is stored in a double wall flammables cabinet I got for free so I can't argue that point.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:56 am
by Windy Wilson
Ok, Co2 is right out, then, as is probably Halon, too.
Nitrogen, then. :P

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:39 pm
by Weetabix
Nitrous oxide. They'll just stay there giggling until you or the police dispose of them.