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Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:38 pm
by Greg
Weetabix wrote:Sadly, the nearest Costco is 200 miles away and I can't fit big. Maybe Greg could bring me one.

But thanks for the encouragement. ;)
Funny, just when I also am finally getting around to looking at something more secure than the gym locker type Stack-On cabinet I have now.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:45 pm
by Weetabix
The $800-1000 RSC rated safes with UL 1078 locks at Bass Pro are looking good to me right now. Liberty safes are much more expensive for the same ratings. Although, I think some of those have 11 ga walls rather than the 12 ga walls of the Bass Pro safes. There's a shop not too out of the way that's having a sale, but I can't tell from their online info whether they have any ratings I'm looking for. I'm texting with a guy not to far away that has a Liberty-made safe on armslist, but again, I haven't received the rating info yet.

And, HTRN? Send me a boatload of cash, and I'll start considering your excellent suggestions. :lol:

ETA: Oh, yeah - the doors on the Bass Pro safes come off. That would be a bonus in moving it into the basement and maybe eventually getting it back out.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:06 am
by Netpackrat
A public defender of my acquaintance, has been professionally aware of or involved in a number of cases involving firearms theft from safes. He said the only one where they successfully broke into a safe on-site, was at an unattended remote cabin where they had time to work on it. All of the others, they physically removed the safe and transported to a location where they had time and equipment to break into it.

Bolt it to a concrete floor if at all possible. Try to put it in a closet where it is difficult or impossible to attack the sides, top, and back. If you have to put it in a garage, try to build something like HTRN described around it.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:04 am
by Rich
Greg wrote:Funny, just when I also am finally getting around to looking at something more secure than the gym locker type Stack-On cabinet I have now.
Let me save you some money. Keep your Stack-On. And hanging out around the edge of the locked door, artfully drape a couple of very dirty athletic socks and a crusty jock strap. Thieves will be afraid to touch it. ;)

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:11 pm
by Greg
Rich wrote:
Greg wrote:Funny, just when I also am finally getting around to looking at something more secure than the gym locker type Stack-On cabinet I have now.
Let me save you some money. Keep your Stack-On. And hanging out around the edge of the locked door, artfully drape a couple of very dirty athletic socks and a crusty jock strap. Thieves will be afraid to touch it. ;)
But they'll still break in, just this time they'll be looking for my cell phone and wallet. :x

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:36 pm
by Precision
My local costco has several sizes of the Cannon. They had the BIG one for $800 and medium sized one for $500 and a small one for 350 or so. You might want to check. I got the $500 when they had a sale and it was $400.

They aren't SAFES, but they are good against most of what you want. My mid sized one on about 600# empty. 60x36x20

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:20 am
by HTRN
Netpackrat wrote:HTRN, I would tell you that you are an evil fucker, but you probably get that a lot.
Lately, ive gotten it from work, it started when i mentioned my "better to be judged by 12 than carried by six" philosophy, along with "fighting fair is fighting stupid". Who knew? :|

The carbide inserts do a wonder on chopsaw blades, and you cant cut stainless with an O/A torch. :ugeek: :twisted:

If you want to get really nasty, a mtion detector triggered co2 bottle with a delay, and a hidden disable is one of the funner things i thought up, but alas its horribly illegal under various mantrap laws, so dont do that. :mrgreen:

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:32 am
by TheArmsman
What happens if you try to cut stainless with an O/A torch? Do bad things happen?

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:47 am
by evan price
TheArmsman wrote:What happens if you try to cut stainless with an O/A torch? Do bad things happen?
It won't cut.
Flame cutting doesn't actually cut with the flame. The flame preheats the iron then the oxygen blast burns the iron.
Stainless forms stable oxides that don't burn.
However if you put a mild steel welding rod on the area you want to cut that will burn through the stainless.

Re: The Gun Safe thread

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:12 am
by HTRN
If theyre smart and determined, theyll get in, no matter what you do, the idea is to make it as difficult and unpleasant as possible. :ugeek: