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Spotting Scope

Postby toad » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:12 pm

I'm thinking about buying a used spotting scope some time. At some ranges I can rent one, but the last time I did so it was windy the little tripod it was mounted on was unstable. I don't remember the scopes objective power but it was a small plastic body which didn't help the stability. I was wondering how much scope do I need to spot .223 holes at 100 yards?

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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby PawPaw » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:54 pm

As in all optics, get the best one you can afford. Seeing a .22 cal bullet hole at 100 yards is a function of clarity as much as anything. Good contrast helps, and by that I mean the target construction. When I'm shooting for groups I like to use the smallest dot my scope can distinguish, and put it on glossy, white paper. I normally use the paper that high school teams print their schedule posters on. Slick, heavy poster paper, 11" x 17". I put the target dot on the unprinted, white side. It's very easy to see the bullet holes in that slick white surface. Most of the time, I can simply use my rifle scope at 100 yards and don't need to break out the spotting scope.

Eidt to add: I use an old Bushnell Sportview spotting scope. With good targets it will easily see .22 cal bullet holes at 100 yards. With poor targets it won't. Still, I've found it useful over the years. I see that Optics4Birding has it on sale for under $100.00. It's not a great scope, but it is certainly useful.
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby Denis » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:33 pm

I'd give Neil or Doug at http://www.cameralandny.com a phone call, tell them what you want and see what spotting scopes they have as open-box or ex-demo specials. They are great guys to deal with. Neil is a shooter himself. Last time I ordered from them, they sent me brand new unopened items for the ex-demo prices, and threw in a free bino tripod too! Visit the website to enter a free draw.

Alternatively, to really stretch your budget, see what you can google up as a "birdwatching" scope. I bought one so advertised at Tchibo for well under 100 bucks, and it turned out to be a rather good 20-60x80 instrument, which is a fine spotting scope for shooting 100m. It looks an awful lot like an early-model Bushnell Elite. The included tripod was too light and flimsy, but that was easily replaced.

Vixen optics are great value at the moment. They are well known for their astronomical instruments, and are now trying to break into the sports-optics segment.

Try your luck at DX: http://www.dx.com/s/spotting+scope

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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby HTRN » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:53 pm

You're best option in a cheap spotting scope is a Konus. Amazon has one for 230 bucks, that comes with Tripod and case.
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby randy » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:52 pm

HTRN wrote:You're best option in a cheap spotting scope is a Konus. Amazon has one for 230 bucks, that comes with Tripod and case.


The one I got from Jarhead Top some years ago is more than adequate for my needs and I've had no issues with it. Looks like he has a new shooters package deal that's worth looking at if the stand is of any interest to you (if I had kept up in Hi-power Rifle I was going to need a stand like that). Same scope I have, but mine came with a mini tripod which is good for prone or from the bench.
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby rightisright » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:33 pm

randy wrote:
HTRN wrote:You're best option in a cheap spotting scope is a Konus. Amazon has one for 230 bucks, that comes with Tripod and case.


The one I got from Jarhead Top some years ago is more than adequate for my needs and I've had no issues with it. Looks like he has a new shooters package deal that's worth looking at if the stand is of any interest to you (if I had kept up in Hi-power Rifle I was going to need a stand like that). Same scope I have, but mine came with a mini tripod which is good for prone or from the bench.


I've been happy w. mine, too. The tripod is a bit wobbly, though. I replaced mine.

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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby Netpackrat » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:54 pm

The Konus I bought from Midway has been fine.
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby Darrell » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:32 am

The Konus Konuspot 20-60x100 spotting scope is well regarded:

http://www.opticsplanet.com/konus-konus ... scope.html

Tip: do not cheap out on a tripod. Get a good stout one.
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby JAE » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:17 am

A builder's/transit level works fine for the range - not so much for the field (field of veiw sucks). But you can get an excellent piece of glass from ebay or a pawnshop for less than a cheap chinese spotting scope. It will have crosshairs and stadia lines, possibly a nice tripod and focus tight enough to read the ticmarks on a target rod at 150 yds. I've used them and it is worth considering if cash is a factor.

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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby toad » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:35 am

http://www.telescope.com/Telescopes/Spotting-Scopes/Orion-20-60x80mm-Waterproof-Zoom-Spotting-Scope/pc/-1/c/1/sc/16/p/113092.uts

It looks like if you get below 3 figures on the price you run into a quality crap shoot on a Chinese sourced product if you are looking to buy new.

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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby Darrell » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:07 pm

I can't comment on that particular scope, but Orion has a great reputation, and has very good customer service.

One tip on buying optics--you really need to look through what you're thinking of buying. For budget optics, Nikon is the only pig in a poke I'd consider.
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby Weetabix » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:22 pm

Define "budget."
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby HTRN » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:39 pm

Weetabix wrote:Define "budget."

Yeah, that's a good point - he may not want to spend that much on a scope, and they're are some of us who look at Kowa's and go, "5 grand? It's a bargain!" :lol:

As for a tripod recommendation, I can wholeheartedly suggest a Manifrotto/Bogen 3251 with a 3047 head. Beefy and very stable. Downside? Used you're talking more than the spotting scope. Mine cost me 300 bucks and I thought it was a steal.
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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby toad » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:41 pm

What I want, computerized equatorial mount, what I could do. Put some fishing weights in the legs. What I need, an apartment that overlooks a university swimming pool.

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Re: Spotting Scope

Postby FrankWood » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:00 am

Darrell wrote:I can't comment on that particular scope, but Orion has a great reputation, and has very good customer service.

One tip on buying optics--you really need to look through what you're thinking of buying. For budget optics, Nikon is the only pig in a poke I'd consider.


I never knew about all this things until such time that I have visited the site and read this topic, thank you dude for the information.


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