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Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Johnnyreb » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:22 pm

I was down at a pawn shop today, picked up a nice Ruger 22 revolver for 200 bucks because I felt like it. And he had several Jiminez? .380 pistols, little pocket guns for about that same amount. I don't actually have any compact or subcompact handguns. Nor do I have something in .380.

So do these little pistols have a rep? Good or bad?

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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Vonz90 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:58 pm

Latest incarnation of Jennings Saturday Night Specials - I guess marginally better than nothing.

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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Combat Controller » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:53 pm

First rule and all that. I would say not really.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Jered » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:22 pm

Not really. You're better off buying a HiPoint.
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Postby evan price » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:05 pm

Ring of Fire guns. Bottom of the barrel. Junk.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Jered » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:05 am

Seriously. If you want a cheap gun, get a HiPoint.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby slowpoke » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:27 am

With hi point doing the dirt cheap but reliable and good service; how do these ring of fire guns not go permanent bankrupt?
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby skb12172 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:40 pm

A lot of people like to get by cheap and know nothing of guns.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby evan price » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:42 pm

slowpoke wrote:With hi point doing the dirt cheap but reliable and good service; how do these ring of fire guns not go permanent bankrupt?

They indeed do this periodically.
They've been through 5-6 iterations.
Raven. Phoenix. Davis. Lorcin.
Jennings. Bryco. Jimenez.

The founder of Raven, George Jennings, is the father of the founder of Jennings, Bruce Jennings. Jennings renamed his company Bryco after it was sued into bankruptcy.

Jim Waldorf started Lorcin, he was a high school friend of Jennings and used their designs. Lorcin was sued into bankruptcy due to defects in the guns.

Jim Davis founded Davis Industries from Raven/Phoenix and is the former manager of Raven and is the son in law of George Jennings. Sued into bankruptcy.

Phoenix Arms was founded after Raven burnt down by the ex-wife of George Jennings and his children.

Paul Jimenez founded Jimenez Arms and was the manager of Bryco Arms who bought their assets after Bryco declared bankruptcy after the wrongful death lawsuit of a child shot by a malfunctioning Bryco.

They all use the same designs.

Their modus operendi is to open up and make guns using their standard design and molds. When regulatory or civil actions drive them out of business, auction the assets to a relative and re open with a new name.

Jimenez and Phoenix are the current names.

Bruce Jennings, is currently in Club Fed for being a kiddie-porn distributor and collector.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby skb12172 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:41 pm

How would one improve their designs to something functional, yet affordable?
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Postby Rod » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:34 pm

skb12172 wrote:How would one improve their designs to something functional, yet affordable?

Melt them down and start over?
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Greg » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:17 pm

skb12172 wrote:How would one improve their designs to something functional, yet affordable?


Isn't that what HiPoint does?

These various Raven and Sons guns are pot metal blowback cheap guns that don't work.

Aren't HiPoints pot metal blowback cheap guns that actually work? (Which is why they're so clunky and bulky?)
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Windy Wilson » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:09 am

That's it, then. Hi point pistols stand up to use because the cheap metal is thick enough to be used.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby evan price » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:57 pm

skb12172 wrote:How would one improve their designs to something functional, yet affordable?

The major issue is that they're isn't much room to fix them. Tolerances are sloppy, machining is sloppy, fit and finish is sloppy. The designs are barely workable if100% correct. Add in the crap processes and it's junk.
I once owned a jennings j22 (actually it was my wife's) the instructions said you had to put the safety on FIRE to chamber a round. The safety in theory prevented the slide from moving if it was set to SAFE. In actual fact you could easily over ride the safety because it fit loosely in the frame. So if you cocked it while on SAFE, if you flip the safety to FIRE, it would go off. Nice.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby skb12172 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:03 pm

What about their designs with better materials and machining?
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Candyman » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:06 pm

I'm ashamed to admit that I have gotten pretty good at fixing these cheap POS guns . It is only because I have to test fire them for work from time to time.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Termite » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:26 pm

Candyman wrote:I'm ashamed to admit that I have gotten pretty good at fixing these cheap POS guns . It is only because I have to test fire them for work from time to time.
The way you make them better is by buying a better gun.

I think it's a great idea for OGs and wannabe OGs to use these POS guns.......much better than them using Sigs or HKs.
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Re: Is Jiminez any good?

Postby Termite » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:28 pm

skb12172 wrote:What about their designs with better materials and machining?

You can bath a pig and put nice ornaments on it............... but it's still a pig.
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