And the prices keep dropping

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And the prices keep dropping

Post by Candyman » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:55 am

Got an email from Palmetto State Armory today around lunch time on their daily deal.
I could help myself and placed an order for an upper and lower.
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$269.99 for the upper and $129.99 for the lower. And free shipping on both.
The prices keep getting better every day.
Now the question is, What am I going to do with it? It's not like I don't have enough ARs sitting around the house.
I guess I'll have to give it away.
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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by rightisright » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:33 pm

I have two of their stainless "Freedom" line uppers. Great shooters for how little they cost.

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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by MarkD » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:09 pm

Someday I'm moving to America where I can have nice things....

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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by rightisright » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:22 pm

MarkD wrote:Someday I'm moving to America where I can have nice things....

I'll be out of NJ as soon as financially possible. But that hasn't stopped me from enjoying the AR platform. Yeah, I can't fold my stock because it makes the gun much more dangerous. Yeah, I can't add a bayonet because it's the number 2 way gang bangers kill their enemies. But I can still have fun killing paper with my ARs. Plus, all the neutering can be reversed when I leave (cutting off the welded compensators may be a bit of a PITA, but it can be done).

If you want an NJ compliant (spit) model, Gun For Hire is pretty close to you (I think). From what I hear, they do decent AR 15 build classes.

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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by Darrell » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:30 am

I don't get why AKs have become so expensive, compared to ARs. I've seen it argued that modern CNC has helped lower the prices on ARs, vs. more traditional stamping and machining of AKS, not sure I see it, though.
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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by slowpoke » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:58 am

Darrell wrote:I don't get why AKs have become so expensive, compared to ARs. I've seen it argued that modern CNC has helped lower the prices on ARs, vs. more traditional stamping and machining of AKS, not sure I see it, though.
Different economies of scale. CNC lowered small run prices and saved having to make dedicated fixtures and tooling. Stampings require a dedicated die set, and the presses arent terribly cheaper than a cnc station. So if you were making 100k AKs per year so you were running your die sets constantly on dedicated presses, then yeah gets pretty cheap. If you piggyback production from china or russia who do same thing, but if you want to make a thousand a year you'll have trouble covering your tooling costs. On the gripping hand though, AR rifles really are the best platform, and we get them so cheaply :mrgreen:
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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by Durham68 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:32 am

The used handguns are piling up at the local shops with prices inching down more each month. I'm holding out until summer to see how much lower that can get.
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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by Kommander » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:41 am

Darrell wrote:I don't get why AKs have become so expensive, compared to ARs. I've seen it argued that modern CNC has helped lower the prices on ARs, vs. more traditional stamping and machining of AKS, not sure I see it, though.
I think its the end of the cold war surplus and the ATF's war on imported kits, especially with the barrel ban. Most of the circa $300 AKs being sold 10 years ago were not really new guns, but remanufactured ones. There is nothing wrong with that of course, I owned one, liked it allot, and should not have sold it. The AKs sold today contain a much higher percentage of new parts, with many AKs on the market being made of entirely new parts.

Meanwhile the AR market has rapidly expanded, and competition between all the new manufacturers has resulted in lower prices. Some of this price cutting is the result of cutting corners and some is the result of improving manufacturing methods.

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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by Precision » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:00 pm

rightisright wrote:
MarkD wrote:Someday I'm moving to America where I can have nice things....

I'll be out of NJ as soon as financially possible. But that hasn't stopped me from enjoying the AR platform. Yeah, I can't fold my stock because it makes the gun much more dangerous. Yeah, I can't add a bayonet because it's the number 2 way gang bangers kill their enemies. But I can still have fun killing paper with my ARs. Plus, all the neutering can be reversed when I leave (cutting off the welded compensators may be a bit of a PITA, but it can be done).

If you want an NJ compliant (spit) model, Gun For Hire is pretty close to you (I think). From what I hear, they do decent AR 15 build classes.

Many if not most "welded" comps are just soldered on. A little heat from a torch and presto...
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Re: And the prices keep dropping

Post by Candyman » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:54 pm

rightisright wrote:
MarkD wrote:Someday I'm moving to America where I can have nice things....

I'll be out of NJ as soon as financially possible. But that hasn't stopped me from enjoying the AR platform. Yeah, I can't fold my stock because it makes the gun much more dangerous. Yeah, I can't add a bayonet because it's the number 2 way gang bangers kill their enemies. But I can still have fun killing paper with my ARs. Plus, all the neutering can be reversed when I leave (cutting off the welded compensators may be a bit of a PITA, but it can be done).

If you want an NJ compliant (spit) model, Gun For Hire is pretty close to you (I think). From what I hear, they do decent AR 15 build classes.
Why not just replace the barrel with a new one and go with a rail.
http://www.primaryarms.com/B556CM41618-P
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/AR-15 ... _4876.html
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/David ... _5207.html

Or you could go carbine with front sight tower.
http://www.jsesurplus.com/Del-Ton16M4Ba ... adium.aspx

But if you want to go carbine but still be able to mount a bayonet for Zombies then you will need to go with a midlenght gas system.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-14-7 ... 44648.html

I bet that in a few months the price of barrels with sight towers will be dropping.

The area where you are really going to save money is by building your own rifle. Intro level ARs are cheap but most people replace the stocks which will cost you another $75 to $150.
You can build the rifle of your dreams for under $1000. Out of these rifles all cost me under $1000 other then the one with the Jack lower.
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