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Postby Combat Controller » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:05 am

Ok, it that time of year for me to review what I am spending on stuff. The hosting and bandwidth here is not onerous but as the decision was made recently to make ourselves a 503c or some-such I think the first step will be to raise some cash for the legal work, hosting etc and once granted any money sent our way will be deductible and the whole sheebang will be audit-able by the users. Plus it will survive any abuses that however unlikely could occur. I could die in the fiery manner you are all expecting (and dare I say anticipating?) and right now it would be damn inconvenient. So in the interest of transparency and privacy of doners I suggest setting up a fund that for the the time being you contribute to and us admins will control to get this started if you are all agreeable. If this idea has traction I will get this underway. If you want to donate and not have your name show up just let me know and I will assign you a doner number and I will post the amount so you know and there is transparency etc and we don't end up with another debacle.

Thoughts? I presume y'all are fine with me handling this but if you want to nominate someone else that's cool too. Just make sure they are up for it first!
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Postby Precision » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:14 am

works for me.

A target amount would be a good thing to list. I will be in for some money, when we get the process in motion. Timing will determine the amount.
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Postby Netpackrat » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:40 am

Works for me. I will second the idea of having a target amount posted when it is opened up for donations, with maybe a brief rundown of what it is for. And keep it fairly close to updated on how much has been collected. I realize that taking such measures is comparable to closing the barn door after the horse has already bolted, but given that we kind of got burned before, it's probably a good idea to err on the side of transparency.
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Postby arctictom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:56 am

Yup just tells us what you need for contributions to keep this place afloat.
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Postby Combat Controller » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:44 am

Good idea guys. I will put together a budget. It won't be much but it adds up. I've put a bit over 2k into this site since it began just keeping the lights on. But it's also been a number of years.... So good value for money.
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Postby BDK » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:05 am

CC, no prob w you handling things - are any of us accountants?

I don't know that I have the time/expertise to set this up - but we have other brethren here who might be more suited to the work. (I do think we should hire anyone being used in their professional capacity, though - unless they wish to use it as pro bono work, etc)

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Postby Rod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:40 am

I'm for it. I'll drop some money in the tip bucket with some thought to repaying CC a little bit back every year for what he's already spent. No fair to have him shoulder the whole burden.
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Postby Precision » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:14 am

Rod wrote:I'm for it. I'll drop some money in the tip bucket with some thought to repaying CC a little bit back every year for what he's already spent. No fair to have him shoulder the whole burden.



Not a bad idea on the repay thing.
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Postby PawPaw » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:16 am

I'm in, let me know. I'd rather that the dunning notice come on the 1st of the month, though.
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Postby Rich » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:16 am

Can't do much, but I'll chip in too.
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Postby McClarkus » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:27 am

I'm in 2
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Postby blackeagle603 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:11 am

concur with all
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Postby JKosprey » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:50 am

I would like to chip in but right now I am unemployed and no longer receiving GI Bill since school is over. If this will be open for awhile I might be able to kick in, assuming a job

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Postby Rod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:17 am

JKosprey wrote:I would like to chip in but right now I am unemployed and no longer receiving GI Bill since school is over. If this will be open for awhile I might be able to kick in, assuming a job
I get the feeling this will be an ongoing thing so don't feel bad if you can't contribute now. Down the road should be fine.
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Postby Old Grafton » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:02 am

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Postby arctictom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:28 am

Tell us where to send the money lad
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Postby Mike OTDP » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:53 pm

I'm in.

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Postby First Shirt » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:20 pm

Sounds good. Just say when.
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Postby Dub_James » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:23 pm

Let us know the payment details. Something online and straightforward would be best.
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Postby g-man » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:37 pm

Budget and transparency... sounds like a plan. I'm in.
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Postby Weetabix » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:48 pm

I'm in.

I like the target amount - make sure you calculate it based on some realistic number of people who might contribute. I.E. don't divide expenses by the total number of registered users - the target amount would be too small.

I also like the payback scheme.

I don't understand the 503c thing, but I'll kick in toward it if you guys think it's a good idea.
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Postby Flintlock Tom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:26 pm

Yup.
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Count me in.

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Postby SoupOrMan » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:46 pm

Keeping this bar open?

I'm in.
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Postby Combat Controller » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:08 pm

Ok, I'll put something together and post it here.
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Postby Flintlock Tom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:43 pm

I "second" the nomination of Steve McQueen for treasurer!
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Postby Darrell » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:27 am

Happy to help.
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Postby Old Grafton » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:32 am

Flintlock Tom wrote:I "second" the nomination of Steve McQueen for treasurer!


I just wish he'd post more often.....
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Postby Steamforger » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:51 am

Same same.

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Postby Cobar » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:58 pm

I gots me a real job now, so I'm in.

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Postby Yogimus » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:07 pm

I would prefer a slightly more transparent process since the "incident"

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Postby BDK » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:37 am

Yogi, I trust CC, but if it would help - I need to check w the ethics board first - I could do something like providing my Bar number as ID, and agreeing to verify the propriety of any disbursements.

Really, we just need to get a charitable structure, and we can open a dedicated account - we could make it require multiple signatures form a proper board etc but that seems a bit much

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Postby Yogimus » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:56 am

Nah, just a "thank you for the donation on XXX (date and size of donation) our total raised is XXX"

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Postby 308Mike » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:11 am

What are you thinking about to raise the money? You want to use one of those sites which take a chunk of the donations? Set up your own direct deposit accounts which accepts Internet contributions? I just don't want to see the donations getting watered down because the donation site is skimming 10% off the top.

I'd be MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE making direct contributions to a separate account you control, but which you can link to something other than your own personal income for Income Tax reasons.

If you've completed the 503(c) process for the site, and have an account linked to it, then you should be okay. I just don't want you to get hammered for taxes for donations donated to the site which the IRS might be trying to tack onto your personal income.
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Postby Combat Controller » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:09 am

We will set up a separate account for the donations under the operating name. 503c status can take a while so maybe an LLC or DBA to start with. I am happy to post amounts but some users want to be anonymous there too so I thought a doner number or something so the amount still gets posted. I don't want to go overboard but I do want to start on a good foot and make this thing self sufficient etc.

308Mike wrote:What are you thinking about to raise the money? You want to use one of those sites which take a chunk of the donations? Set up your own direct deposit accounts which accepts Internet contributions? I just don't want to see the donations getting watered down because the donation site is skimming 10% off the top.

I'd be MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE making direct contributions to a separate account you control, but which you can link to something other than your own personal income for Income Tax reasons.

If you've completed the 503(c) process for the site, and have an account linked to it, then you should be okay. I just don't want you to get hammered for taxes for donations donated to the site which the IRS might be trying to tack onto your personal income.
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Postby DavidB » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:23 am

It all sounds good- I'm in.

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Postby Dinochrome One » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:16 am

Same here.
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CombatController wrote:We will set up a separate account for the donations under the operating name. 503c status can take a while so maybe an LLC or DBA to start with. I am happy to post amounts but some users want to be anonymous there too so I thought a doner number or something so the amount still gets posted. I don't want to go overboard but I do want to start on a good foot and make this thing self sufficient etc.


Please post when you get that completed and how we can use it (published donation or not), and I'll be more than happy to make a contribution to the cause (I know it's just technical stuff to get done, and it might take a little time, so please let us know when we're cleared to make the donations [and where], and if there are any restrictions) so we know beforehand so we don't run into any surprises during the donation process.

Thanks for all your hard work and commitment to the cause!!! :)
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Postby Combat Controller » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:01 pm

We are going to take a crack at getting it set up now, everyone got pretty distracted with year end stuff.
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CombatController wrote:We are going to take a crack at getting it set up now, everyone got pretty distracted with year end stuff.
Keep bumping it, let us know when it's ready.
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Postby mekender » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:43 am

So for now, I have a decent income and will help in any way I can...

Should I get back on the unemployment bandwagon again, I could send you guys some thong pics for you to auction off...
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Or we could raise money by paying to NOT have those pictures sent out.
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Yeah, I'm in.
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Postby 308Mike » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:38 am

You KNOW I'll kick in with whatever I/WE (my wife also has a vote) can afford.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:04 pm

Ok folks here's the deal.

I talked with a couple of attorneys and basically we are going to raise a little money first to pay for the legal work needed to get this off the ground. It is not as simple as filing as the forum itself is actually worth money. We also need to trademark our name, etc. All this cost money. We will probably need a couple of grand to get it all done and transfer ownership. My attorneys both concur that I should not shoulder the costs at this point and it should be a group effort since it's going to be a 503c.

So.... If y'all trust me I set up an account at USAA under my name to use just for this until we can get all the stuff done and transferred, I set up a paypal linked to it as well. For those that would rather wait until it's formed that's cool too. It will just be different info for the donation. We can figure out all the legal wrangling once we are funded.

I will keep track and either post an anon donation (so you at least know it is recognized) or put it with your username if you wish. I'll keep the running tally and costs, perhaps on a spreadsheet on google drive.

What say you?

email to donate is a gmail address with the beginning of ----

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Postby BDK » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:07 pm

Sounds good

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Of course, we trust you. 8-)
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:13 am

Thanks folks! We got our first $50 donation. Not sure which user it was but thanks for getting the ball rolling!
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Is it a personal or business account? Paypal asks.
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Postby Old Grafton » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:05 am

OK, I am illiterate concerning any of the above. I am willing to contribute, but do not understand how to connect to whatever it is you have set up. Could you please enlighten me or post a simple "click here" type of link?
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It's a personal account with USAA. We have not registered TGC as a biz so we have to start somewhere.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:12 am

Two more, one for $25 and one for $30 in the account.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:16 am

Old Grafton wrote:OK, I am illiterate concerning any of the above. I am willing to contribute, but do not understand how to connect to whatever it is you have set up. Could you please enlighten me or post a simple "click here" type of link?


Go to www.paypal.com since we are not a biz I can't create a pay now button. Once there you can make a payment from your paypal account. If you do not have one I can send you an email that will allow you to make a one time payment without signing up. PM me if the second path is the one you want to take.
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Postby John_in_Longview » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:52 am

CC,
I tried to send a PM, but my user profile says I am not authorized to send PM's. I send funds via PayPal on 18-FEB-2015. Please send me a message or reply to this post so I know they made it.

Thanks,
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Re: GC fundraiser

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John_in_Longview wrote:CC,
I tried to send a PM, but my user profile says I am not authorized to send PM's. I send funds via PayPal on 18-FEB-2015. Please send me a message or reply to this post so I know they made it.

Thanks,
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Netpackrat » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:26 am

The forum permissions are set up such that most users cannot send or receive PMs. It was a Chris thing, I guess.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Cobar » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:00 am

Vehicle issues at the moment, but hopefully in a couple weeks I can chip in.

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:53 pm

Netpackrat wrote:The forum permissions are set up such that most users cannot send or receive PMs. It was a Chris thing, I guess.


I'll look into that.

Another $25! We are up to $130 now, folks. Thanks.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:07 pm

Netpackrat wrote:The forum permissions are set up such that most users cannot send or receive PMs. It was a Chris thing, I guess.


For the time being just use the email link or email me at the gmail address I posted.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:21 pm

Another Anon $20! Thanks folks!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:50 am

$20 more! Up to $170 now folks!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby John_in_Longview » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:14 am

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John_in_Longview wrote:CC,
I tried to send a PM, but my user profile says I am not authorized to send PM's. I send funds via PayPal on 18-FEB-2015. Please send me a message or reply to this post so I know they made it.

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Weird! But we got it! Thanks!


Great! Thanks for the confirmation.

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Malthorn » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:12 am

Maybe a sticky so people won't have to wade through 40 od posts to find planckmaximilian.

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:13 pm

Malthorn wrote:Maybe a sticky so people won't have to wade through 40 od posts to find planckmaximilian.


Good idea.

Another $240 raised folks. Lumped together because some doners want more anonymity.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:20 pm

Total of $474 now.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:02 pm

Up to a total of $490 now folks. Going good so far! I am setting a goal of $4000 so we can fully pay for everything and buy the host and name for years to come. I'll keep y'all updated.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:57 pm

Up to $655 now folks!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:41 am

Another $30, thanks folks!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby 308Mike » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:25 am

CombatController wrote:Another $30, thanks folks!

I used to be able to create a static web page which allowed people to make donations bypassing the usual PP crap and signup (it would take any other credit card), but now, if they're using scripts, I'm not so sure.

I'll have to try and see if I can make one that works (AGAIN).
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:37 pm

$50 more thanks folks! We are getting very close to engaging the lawyer to draw up the initial paperwork.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Wed May 06, 2015 6:53 am

We are 50% there folks! Starting the process anyway... :lol: :lol:
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Wed May 06, 2015 7:21 pm

$25 more! Thanks!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby 308Mike » Thu May 07, 2015 1:04 am

DAMN!! I wish I knew we were still short, or I would have given you money for it during breakfast the other day!!!

I *HATE* PayPal, and very quickly glanced through the thread for a quick link, but didn't see one right away.

I think you should add a link in the initial post to where contributions can be made. Remember, the easier you make it for people to donate, the more donations you will have. ;)

I'd be more than happy to make the donation to reach our initial goal, but other than sending you a check, how can I get it to you, and you receive the MAXIMUM amount of money donated.

Do you have somewhere else I can donate and PP doesn't rip us off (or I can just give to you and you apply it to the site funding with a notation for your books)?
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Weetabix » Thu May 07, 2015 1:14 am

Mike - check here.
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Re: GC fundraiser

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Weetabix wrote:Mike - check here.

THANKS!!!! Much appreciated!!! :D :D

EDIT: They still want me to sign up for an account just so I can donate.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby 308Mike » Thu May 07, 2015 1:29 am

308Mike wrote:
Weetabix wrote:Mike - check here.

THANKS!!!! Much appreciated!!! :D :D

EDIT: They still want me to sign up for an account just so I can donate.

Weet - do you have a PP account to not only send money but receive money (I can't recall the last time I actually WROTE a check)!!

Perhaps it would be easier if deposited the money into your account and you make the donation for me/us?? We have a history with PP, and we've initiated signups but once we read their terms, we withdrew - and henceforth, most all places we wish to make a donation (VIA Credit Card) are REFUSED by the PAYPAL ASSHOLES!!!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby skb12172 » Thu May 07, 2015 2:18 am

If someone could send me the address I will send a money order.
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Re: GC fundraiser

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308Mike wrote:Weet - do you have a PP account to not only send money but receive money (I can't recall the last time I actually WROTE a check)!!

Perhaps it would be easier if deposited the money into your account and you make the donation for me/us?? We have a history with PP, and we've initiated signups but once we read their terms, we withdrew - and henceforth, most all places we wish to make a donation (VIA Credit Card) are REFUSED by the PAYPAL ASSHOLES!!!

I don't know if my paypal account can receive money or not. Not sure how it would be easier to send it to me than to CC, though. They're both paypal.

Here's what: Send me a forged cashier's check for more than I need. I'll make the donation and wire you the difference. No... wait... that only works on craigslist. :geek:
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Re: GC fundraiser

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Weetabix wrote:
308Mike wrote:Weet - do you have a PP account to not only send money but receive money (I can't recall the last time I actually WROTE a check)!!

Perhaps it would be easier if deposited the money into your account and you make the donation for me/us?? We have a history with PP, and we've initiated signups but once we read their terms, we withdrew - and henceforth, most all places we wish to make a donation (VIA Credit Card) are REFUSED by the PAYPAL ASSHOLES!!!

I don't know if my paypal account can receive money or not. Not sure how it would be easier to send it to me than to CC, though. They're both paypal.

Here's what: Send me a forged cashier's check for more than I need. I'll make the donation and wire you the difference. No... wait... that only works on craigslist. :geek:

No sweat, G.I., I'll just get a Money Order (unless he prefers Postal Money Orders) down at our local mini-market and snail-mail it to CC. But thanks for the offer to overpay and wire the rest........ LOL!!! :lol: :lol: ;)
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Sun May 10, 2015 10:26 pm

I can send you my address but I am uncomfortable posting it here on the site. We also got another $50!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby HTRN » Mon May 11, 2015 7:40 pm

Can somebody clue me in on how to send some money that doesn't involve setting up a Paypal acct? I know you can use a regular credit card that is processed through Paypal(I do it all the time on Ebay), but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to do it through their website.

Otherwise, an address to send a check will work.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby 308Mike » Tue May 12, 2015 5:55 am

HTRN wrote:Can somebody clue me in on how to send some money that doesn't involve setting up a Paypal acct? I know you can use a regular credit card that is processed through Paypal(I do it all the time on Ebay), but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to do it through their website.

Otherwise, an address to send a check will work.

If you want, send me the amount you're going to contribute (email), and I'll include it with my money order - and all you'll need to do is send me whatever you're going to contribute (I trust you) with my money order. That way, we only send him one money order to cover two donations.

Deal?

If anyone else wants to pile on (to this contribution), let me know (and I'll send you my snail-mail address for the check - and I too HATE PayPal). I trust you to be honest with me, but if you short or screw me (while I front the funds), I WILL hunt you down!!!

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Glenn Bartley » Tue May 19, 2015 2:15 am

I have not been on the site in too long. I understand you are collecting funds to become 503C (whatever that is) but am wondering why this is being done.

Any info would be appreciated, thanks.

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby 308Mike » Tue May 19, 2015 2:43 am

Glenn Bartley wrote:I have not been on the site in too long. I understand you are collecting funds to become 503C (whatever that is) but am wondering why this is being done.

Any info would be appreciated, thanks.

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Glenn, thank you very much for the reminder, since I need to get a Money Order off to CC ASAP (but I've been remiss since my wife has been ill), but it reminded me of something I needed to do!!! And for THAT, I THANK you (for reminding me)!!! :D
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Tue May 19, 2015 2:45 am

Glenn Bartley wrote:I have not been on the site in too long. I understand you are collecting funds to become 503C (whatever that is) but am wondering why this is being done.

Any info would be appreciated, thanks.

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I plan on turning it into a non profit for the benefit of all the members. That way we are open and transparent and the Chris incident will not be repeated. Also, if any of the founders leave the site is not subject to the whims of anyone else as happened to Kim's site several times.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Glenn Bartley » Sat May 23, 2015 1:33 pm

Donation made. Good luck with the site.

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Sat May 23, 2015 6:33 pm

Glenn Bartley wrote:Donation made. Good luck with the site.

All the best,
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Thanks Glenn! Just saw it!

We are close enough to start the ball, I will update y'all when the first bit is done.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby skb12172 » Sat May 23, 2015 7:20 pm

308Mike wrote:
Glenn Bartley wrote:I have not been on the site in too long. I understand you are collecting funds to become 503C (whatever that is) but am wondering why this is being done.

Any info would be appreciated, thanks.

All the best,
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Glenn, thank you very much for the reminder, since I need to get a Money Order off to CC ASAP (but I've been remiss since my wife has been ill), but it reminded me of something I needed to do!!! And for THAT, I THANK you (for reminding me)!!! :D

Mike, if it isn't too late I would like to donate $25. You can send me your snail mail on Facebook or Gmail.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:28 pm

Ok, instead of a Non Profit which would require any board member to not remain anon the lawyer suggests a Trust. So it looks like we will set up a trust and before the trigger is pulled I will post the regulations that govern it for y'all to review. Then its the GC Trust that will own the domains and the site. It will also pick up the tabs for both. It will cost a bit every year to maintain so we need to either

1. Accept Ads. ( I would not prefer)
2. Raise funds the old fashioned way. I am still working on operating costs yearly for the trust.

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Postby Weetabix » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:11 pm

I'll kick in every year.

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby BDK » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:20 pm

I think we should plan on kicking in every year

A) forum ads tend to get annoying

B) I really don't know that we'd generate much, given our size. Though we do need to fix our size issues somehow.

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Re: GC fundraiser

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I think that whichever option will give us the necessary legal structure with the least cost and complication is the way to go. If that's a trust, then so be it. Theoretically, in addition to avoiding any repeats of the Chris situation, we need to avoid something like happened at THR, where Oleg made the mistake of handing over the keys to somebody who proved to be untrustworthy, and then had no good way to prove in court that it wasn't his intent to just give the site to the guy (at least, that's my understanding of that situation).

So, some kind of legal structure spelling out ownership, intent, and duties would seem to be a good thing. I say the cheapest and least complicated way of doing that, because realistically this place just isn't worth a court fight... It'd be far cheaper and easier to just re-form at another site (again) in the event of an ownership dispute.
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How do co-ops work? Is that an option? Maybe they have to have customers or something, though.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby BDK » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:42 pm

A trust should work. Selection of the trustees would beverage only place where anything bizarre could happen, and it should be pretty simple to sort - require signatures of two or more to disperse funds, etc.

If nothing else, the lawyers among us can be trustees, publicly, without raising many eyebrows, and given the consequences for attorneys, games would be unlikely.

For CC, the rest of the horsemen, it would depend on how comfortable they are public ally associating themselves w this group.

(As I recall its pretty normal for attorneys to sct as trustees for a variety of groups.)

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:11 am

BDK wrote:A trust should work. Selection of the trustees would beverage only place where anything bizarre could happen, and it should be pretty simple to sort - require signatures of two or more to disperse funds, etc.

If nothing else, the lawyers among us can be trustees, publicly, without raising many eyebrows, and given the consequences for attorneys, games would be unlikely.

For CC, the rest of the horsemen, it would depend on how comfortable they are public ally associating themselves w this group.

(As I recall its pretty normal for attorneys to sct as trustees for a variety of groups.)


I was figuring on having attorneys as the trustees. If a member wants to volunteer then that is gravy.
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Johnnyreb » Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:47 am

Ok, I finally noticed this thread. Sent in $25 via paypal.

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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:33 am

Thanks!
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Re: GC fundraiser

Postby Combat Controller » Thu May 26, 2016 5:43 pm

Ok folks. I have been remiss is getting this underway in a timely fashion but I was OBE. I have most of the trust done and an attorney to act as trustee so we all get to stay anonymous. Once it's all done I will post it here for comments prior to founding. The domain names and the content will be transferred over along with any further donations y'all make prior. Future donations will go straight to it. The mods will become the governing body.

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Re: GC fundraiser

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Not my area of expertise so no comment but thank you.


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