The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

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The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Darrell » Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:34 am

I'd never heard that the Germans and Russians used explosive ammunition in WWII. The Germans used it only on the Eastern Front against the Russians, and vice versa. Very impressive video:

https://www.full30.com/video/82efb579fd ... 66ef3d3c9d

The guys in the video got their hands on some genuine explosive rounds from the time, both Russian and German. Early results against ballistic "soap" might be misleading, as they cover later on. Some devastating results if you watch through the vid. Toward the end, one of the guys also reads from a German soldier's account of using the ammo against Russians. I guess they weren't following the Geneva accords on the Eastern Front.
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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Yogimus » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:52 am

I wonder if this could be applied to a .45 cal round.

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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Yogimus » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:56 am

as a "marker" round only, of course

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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by skb12172 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:00 am

Of course… :twisted:
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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Rod » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:38 am

After watching that, I wondered what effect the clothing and gear would have on the round. The damage suffered by the large gel block would presumably cause detonation earlier than normal.
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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Yogimus » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:00 am

Looks like it is a time issue not a mass issue. Clothing wouldn't cause pre-det unless it held the round up for a few microseconds

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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Rod » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:14 am

Yogimus wrote:Looks like it is a time issue not a mass issue. Clothing wouldn't cause pre-det unless it held the round up for a few microseconds
I sometimes act drunk when I write on here. That's what I meant, the microsecond delay might cause the detonation as it enters to body. Or, if it hit a buckle, button, or other assorted gear.
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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Yogimus » Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:24 am

2700 feet per second.... it detonates after 3 inches of penetration... fuck... math.


2700x12= 32400 inches per second

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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Aesop » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:38 am

0.0000925 seconds, or a red whisker less than 1/10,000 sec is the amount of detonation delay you're talking about.
I'm too lazy to fuck around working out the calculus on the deceleration, other than to note its obvious existence, otherwise in about 4/10,000s of a second the round would be coming out your other side and explode beyond you.
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Re: The Germans And Russians Really Didn't Like Each Other

Post by Netpackrat » Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:57 pm

Wonder how many kabooms they got on the production line, assembling the ammo...
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