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Carbon Fiber Knives

Postby Combat Controller » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:33 am

Groovy.I'd order all three but settled for the Escort III to test.
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Re: Carbon Fiber Knives

Postby Denis » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:06 pm

Hmm.

Expecting those to be banned in 3..., 2...

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Postby MarkD » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:30 pm

Denis wrote:Hmm.

Expecting those to be banned in 3..., 2...


Yeah, really. I'm already surprised that the plastic lettuce knives they sell in supermarkets haven't been banned in NJ, a terrorist could sneak one thru a metal detector while the TSA agents are busy groping four-year-olds or dumping the contents of Grandma's colostomy bag all over her dress.

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Postby Termite » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:13 pm

Please keep in mind that carbon fiber does not offer a super sharp blade on the knife, it's not really meant for cutting, but rather for self-defense/stabbing. The blade does not hold an edge, but can be "sharpened' by simply using a sandpaper or even a sharpening stone.


It's a really expensive.......shank. It's better than a <$10 ABS or Zytel dagger......how? LINKY

For the record, I have a few of the glass-filled Zytel knives, both fixed blade and a Blackie Collins folder. If you think they can't be sharpened to the point where they will slash your skin and flesh open, you're full of crap.
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Postby Combat Controller » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:59 pm

I have Zytel and Ceramic knives already. What I don't have is a carbon fiber one!
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Re: Carbon Fiber Knives

Postby Jered » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:26 pm

CByrneIV wrote:
Termite wrote:
Please keep in mind that carbon fiber does not offer a super sharp blade on the knife, it's not really meant for cutting, but rather for self-defense/stabbing. The blade does not hold an edge, but can be "sharpened' by simply using a sandpaper or even a sharpening stone.


It's a really expensive.......shank. It's better than a <$10 ABS or Zytel dagger......how? LINKY

For the record, I have a few of the glass-filled Zytel knives, both fixed blade and a Blackie Collins folder. If you think they can't be sharpened to the point where they will slash your skin and flesh open, you're full of crap.


Oh they're very effective weapons. But they are dense enough and radioreflective enough that they show up on the carryon screening xray and in the backscatter machine.

That's the real reason for the backscatter machine by the way; non metallic and non magnetic metallic weapons.


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Postby Termite » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:31 pm

There's also these: hairbrush and comb knives.
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Postby Kommander » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:36 pm

CByrneIV wrote:That's the real reason for the backscatter machine by the way; non metallic and non magnetic metallic weapons.


That's what I suspected from day one with these these new machines. I have to fly into the lions den New Jersey next month and am going to have to be very careful to properly sterilize all of my bags, clothes, and equipment. Last time a giant pair of scissors somehow got into my toiletry bag.
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Postby Greg » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:02 pm

Kommander wrote:
CByrneIV wrote:That's the real reason for the backscatter machine by the way; non metallic and non magnetic metallic weapons.


That's what I suspected from day one with these these new machines. I have to fly into the lions den New Jersey next month and am going to have to be very careful to properly sterilize all of my bags, close, and equipment. Last time a giant pair of scissors somehow got into my toiletry bag.


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Postby HTRN » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:03 pm

You know, this makes me wonder about the socalled "combat canes". If you have a note from doctor, and bring one with you, what can they say to you? It's really only a very heavy, very solidly built cane. Hell, I'd consider just buying a length of heavywall aluminum tubing, borrowing a tube bender and TIG, and slap a rubber bumper on it.
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Re: Carbon Fiber Knives

Postby Guncrazy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:48 pm

Kommander wrote:Last time a giant pair of scissors somehow got into my toiletry bag.


How giant?

According to TSA guidelines, you can bring a pair of scissors onto an airplane with blades up to 4" long, even if the ends are pointy.

Of course, you can't bring a 1"-bladed Leatherman Micra...

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Postby Kommander » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:05 am

Guncrazy wrote:
Kommander wrote:Last time a giant pair of scissors somehow got into my toiletry bag.


How giant?

According to TSA guidelines, you can bring a pair of scissors onto an airplane with blades up to 4" long, even if the ends are pointy.

Of course, you can't bring a 1"-bladed Leatherman Micra...


Hmm...I don;t have them any more but I have a similar pair and the actual sharpened part of the blades on those are less than 4". Of course the TSA is going to enforce whatever rules they feel like so it does not really matter.

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Postby 308Mike » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:30 am

Guncrazy wrote:
Kommander wrote:Last time a giant pair of scissors somehow got into my toiletry bag.


How giant?

According to TSA guidelines, you can bring a pair of scissors onto an airplane with blades up to 4" long, even if the ends are pointy.

Of course, you can't bring a 1"-bladed Leatherman Micra...


PRUNING shears probably don't meet the TSA guidelines. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And who came up with the 4" guidelines - no doubt a woman who thinks 4" is more likely a MEASURED 2". Remember, most women are TERRIBLE at determining distance and size - you tell them 4" and they think 2"!!!
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Postby Steamforger » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:43 am

Yet you can carry on a good ol fashioned, steel Craftsman screwdriver in the flavor of your choice as long as the steel part is under 6". Did it fairly recently by accident. I fully expected to lose it, but Thousands Standing Around measured it and handed it right back to me.

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Postby Combat Controller » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:20 am

308Mike wrote:
Guncrazy wrote:
Kommander wrote:Last time a giant pair of scissors somehow got into my toiletry bag.


How giant?

According to TSA guidelines, you can bring a pair of scissors onto an airplane with blades up to 4" long, even if the ends are pointy.

Of course, you can't bring a 1"-bladed Leatherman Micra...


PRUNING shears probably don't meet the TSA guidelines. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And who came up with the 4" guidelines - no doubt a woman who thinks 4" is more likely a MEASURED 2". Remember, most women are TERRIBLE at determining distance and size - you tell them 4" and they think 2"!!!


That's what she said.
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Postby Kommander » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:11 am

Steamforger wrote:Yet you can carry on a good ol fashioned, steel Craftsman screwdriver in the flavor of your choice as long as the steel part is under 6". Did it fairly recently by accident. I fully expected to lose it, but Thousands Standing Around measured it and handed it right back to me.


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Postby Jered » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:07 am

Steamforger wrote:Yet you can carry on a good ol fashioned, steel Craftsman screwdriver in the flavor of your choice as long as the steel part is under 6". Did it fairly recently by accident. I fully expected to lose it, but Thousands Standing Around measured it and handed it right back to me.


That's just made every single bullshit security thing pointless. :roll:
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Postby Netpackrat » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:55 am

I carried on a two piece fly rod in a 5 foot long aluminum case with machined end caps. I may not have the length exactly right, but it was short enough to fit into the overhead bins on a 737. Used appropriately, it could have left a mark.
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Postby Kommander » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:47 pm

Looks like a trip to the hardware store is in order...

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Postby SoupOrMan » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:19 pm

HTRN wrote:You know, this makes me wonder about the socalled "combat canes". If you have a note from doctor, and bring one with you, what can they say to you? It's really only a very heavy, very solidly built cane. Hell, I'd consider just buying a length of heavywall aluminum tubing, borrowing a tube bender and TIG, and slap a rubber bumper on it.


How about a recently-broken carbon-fiber hockey stick with a bumper and lockable handle? You can put some ouch behind the lighter ones.
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Postby Greg » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:28 pm

Steamforger wrote:Yet you can carry on a good ol fashioned, steel Craftsman screwdriver in the flavor of your choice as long as the steel part is under 6". Did it fairly recently by accident. I fully expected to lose it, but Thousands Standing Around measured it and handed it right back to me.


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Steamforger wrote:Yet you can carry on a good ol fashioned, steel Craftsman screwdriver in the flavor of your choice as long as the steel part is under 6". Did it fairly recently by accident. I fully expected to lose it, but Thousands Standing Around measured it and handed it right back to me.


That's really funny! I did the same this past January, I had been working in a garage prior to the flight and had put the screwdriver, coincidentally a Craftsman, into my pocket and then went to the airport forgetting it was there. While standing in the security line I put my hand in my pocket and had one of those "oh crap" moments. But I told the TSA lady that I had accidentally brought it along and she said it looked fine and that I could keep it with me. I was pretty shocked to say the least.

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Postby Combat Controller » Wed May 02, 2012 12:22 am

I picked up the Escort III and the ergonomics are all screwed up. It is unusable and almost impossible to hold. Fortunately the Customer service is superb and are sending an Escort I which I requested and refunding the difference. I must say though, it is so light I was unaware it was in my hand. So it seems ideal for lightweight carry...
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HTRN wrote:You know, this makes me wonder about the socalled "combat canes". If you have a note from doctor, and bring one with you, what can they say to you? It's really only a very heavy, very solidly built cane. Hell, I'd consider just buying a length of heavywall aluminum tubing, borrowing a tube bender and TIG, and slap a rubber bumper on it.


Get one of these and you don't need a doctor to write you a note. http://www.unbreakable-umbrella.com/ Good luck getting a note from your doctor. When my mother had back pain and the doctor recommended sitting with support, she wanted a fancier chair. You'd think that the doctor thought he'd have to pay for it himself if he wrote a prescription for one. :roll:
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Postby HTRN » Sat May 05, 2012 1:10 am

Windy Wilson wrote:Get one of these and you don't need a doctor to write you a note. http://www.unbreakable-umbrella.com/ Good luck getting a note from your doctor.

Easy enough when you've got internal hardware holding you together. ;)
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Postby 308Mike » Sat May 05, 2012 5:03 am

Windy Wilson wrote:
HTRN wrote:You know, this makes me wonder about the socalled "combat canes". If you have a note from doctor, and bring one with you, what can they say to you? It's really only a very heavy, very solidly built cane. Hell, I'd consider just buying a length of heavywall aluminum tubing, borrowing a tube bender and TIG, and slap a rubber bumper on it.


Get one of these and you don't need a doctor to write you a note. http://www.unbreakable-umbrella.com/ Good luck getting a note from your doctor. When my mother had back pain and the doctor recommended sitting with support, she wanted a fancier chair. You'd think that the doctor thought he'd have to pay for it himself if he wrote a prescription for one. :roll:


I need a rebuild of my left knee, but so far have declined due to the lack of insurance and the trouble it's causing me isn't immediately terrible. So, instead, I use a cane to help me get by when my knee is giving me trouble. I use the City Stick, but it has a Pistol Grip steel head (which is quite solid and heavy), and allows the cane to be hung on the edge of a counter, hooked over the edge of a restroom door, shopping cart/carriage, etc., etc.

This cane has served me well so far, and if you were looking for a defensive cane, I could recommend this one but haven't had to use it in defensive mode yet, so I don't know how well it actually works in practice (even though I've practiced with certain defensive moves and techniques taught in police Riot Control training).

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Postby Cybrludite » Wed May 09, 2012 5:38 pm

HTRN wrote:You know, this makes me wonder about the socalled "combat canes". If you have a note from doctor, and bring one with you, what can they say to you? It's really only a very heavy, very solidly built cane. Hell, I'd consider just buying a length of heavywall aluminum tubing, borrowing a tube bender and TIG, and slap a rubber bumper on it.

Or just go for the original. :mrgreen:
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