The Gun Counter

Netpackrat wrote:What is that "camouflage" pattern designed to blend in with?

My understanding is that it's not actually meant to be camo. It's supposed to hide paint stains better than the old one-color coveralls, allowing for a longer "serviceable uniform" time. Of course, if the navy just didn't expect people to stay clean while painting, it wouldn't be a problem.

I thought my CoC had gone insane when they came up with "inspection disagrees." It was confirmed when they decided we should be unrepping in "inspection disagrees."

For the uninitiated, unreps are dirty affairs. Lots of different types of grease, fuel oils, sea dye markers running all over you (they stain everything orange), etc. You would essentially have to have a new uniform for every day. Which is double plus unpossible.

Looking from the outside in, as in never in any military, I’m wondering, why doesn’t the Navy provide some kind of official coverall for dirty work?

Frankingun wrote:Looking from the outside in, as in never in any military, I’m wondering, why doesn’t the Navy provide some kind of official coverall for dirty work?

Because that would make sense

randy wrote:

Frankingun wrote:Looking from the outside in, as in never in any military, I’m wondering, why doesn’t the Navy provide some kind of official coverall for dirty work?

Because that would make sense

First rule of military thinking: If it makes sense, you've probably done it wrong.

First Shirt wrote:First rule of military thinking: If it makes sense, you've probably done it wrong.

This is why military intelligence is an oxymoron.

Frankingun wrote:Looking from the outside in, as in never in any military, I’m wondering, why doesn’t the Navy provide some kind of official coverall for dirty work?

They do and have for years. The fight is between those who want them worn all the time, those who only want them for very limited cases, and when those cases would apply or not.

On a ship, the CO has more or less complete authority set policy for that sort of thing.

In simple words, a work uniform technically exists to be worn to perform work. However there exists those among us who wish those who work to look sharp at all times to bring pride to the organisation, at least in their minds. The Army had a word for this. The word was Strac (sp).

As a former avionics technician I can tell you it is hard to look presentable while covered in grease and hydraulic fluid along with crusted sweat salts after twelve hours on a triple digit flight-line and be expected to look sharp at all times. Yet some who held the power of command over me not only expected it, but demanded it.

As long as we have these squirrels in command positions this problem won't change.

I believe this has been discussed as part of The Peter Principle.

Rich wrote:In simple words, a work uniform technically exists to be worn to perform work. However there exists those among us who wish those who work to look sharp at all times to bring pride to the organisation, at least in their minds. The Army had a word for this. The word was Strac (sp).

As a former avionics technician I can tell you it is hard to look presentable while covered in grease and hydraulic fluid along with crusted sweat salts after twelve hours on a triple digit flight-line and be expected to look sharp at all times. Yet some who held the power of command over me not only expected it, but demanded it.

As long as we have these squirrels in command positions this problem won't change.

I believe this has been discussed as part of The Peter Principle.

Yet another argument in favor of requiring officer candidates to serve at least one hitch as enlisted.

First Shirt wrote:

Rich wrote:In simple words, a work uniform technically exists to be worn to perform work. However there exists those among us who wish those who work to look sharp at all times to bring pride to the organisation, at least in their minds. The Army had a word for this. The word was Strac (sp).

As a former avionics technician I can tell you it is hard to look presentable while covered in grease and hydraulic fluid along with crusted sweat salts after twelve hours on a triple digit flight-line and be expected to look sharp at all times. Yet some who held the power of command over me not only expected it, but demanded it.

As long as we have these squirrels in command positions this problem won't change.

I believe this has been discussed as part of The Peter Principle.

Yet another argument in favor of requiring officer candidates to serve at least one hitch as enlisted.

This would not necessarily work out the way you would want. Some of O's I knew who were the biggest assholes to the enlisted were Mustangs.

Some former enlisted make great officers, a lot of them make absolutely horrible officers. There is not a lot in between.