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Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby SoupOrMan » Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:32 pm

Looks like the modern version of Frontal Aviation is getting frisky again.

Based on the distance in that photo I'd say that an enterprising seaman with a slingshot and a couple of 1-inch hex nuts could have some fun.

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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby randy » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:49 pm

I wonder if the language being used by the Navy spokesman is just the diplospeak game, or related to the fact the very few if any of the folks manning our ships were around during the "good old days" of the Cold War and aren't used to this kind of thing, and it wasn't necessarily one sided.

I hear tell that pilots of KA-25 Hormones for instance, don't appreciate the skill it takes a large 4 engine jet to under fly them, while making their landing approach to the Kiev. I hear tell, anyway.
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby randy » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:53 pm



I'd think it more likely that it was Naval Aviation. IIRC the FA boys didn't like to get too far out of the sight of land. To them Feet Wet meant being splashed into the Rhine :mrgreen:
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Rich » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:56 pm

Back in the day, RA-5C's used to underfly the tops of mainmasts while beating up trawlers. Not between masts (not enough room), but beside them. Our guys were crazy, but not insane. :mrgreen:
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby SoupOrMan » Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:14 pm

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I'd think it more likely that it was Naval Aviation. IIRC the FA boys didn't like to get too far out of the sight of land. To them Feet Wet meant being splashed into the Rhine :mrgreen:


As long as they take one of those abominations out of the sky, I'm happy. It's an affront to the F-111 community.
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby blackeagle603 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:19 am

Still got my flight boots and winter weight flight jacket.
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Langenator » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:52 am

I wonder if our ships are still equipped with chaff rockets. And what would happen if said rockets were fired right before a jet overflew the ship at low altitude.
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Jered » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:55 am

Have you ever had a moment when you accidentally test fired a CIWS?
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Steamforger » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:20 am

Langenator wrote:I wonder if our ships are still equipped with chaff rockets. And what would happen if said rockets were fired right before a jet overflew the ship at low altitude.



SRBOC (Super Rapid Blooming Offboard Chaff) is still a thing. They shoot out about 100 yards and explode into a foil cloud. Pretty cool to see in person.

Funny story: EW's, in wartime, can elect to fire SRBOC without having permission to do so from the CIC officer. A buddy was manning the computer during Desert Storm and detected a Exocet radar painting the ship. He informed CIC who promptly stated "Stream Nixie. My buddy starts questioning this officers lineage while he elects, all on his own, to start popping chaff. The CIC places him on report and tries to take him to mast for disobeying an order. CIC gets hindparts chewed off by the old man and EW3 gets a NAM for his efforts. It turns out that they later found out it was a bored French pilot flying around lighting ships up with his Exocet gear for kicks. Don't know if anything bad ever happened to him though.

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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby McClarkus » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:06 am

They said, and subsequent videos showed the fighter jets to be un-armed. If someone might be so kind as to explain to me how does one know that, before its too late, I would be grateful.
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby tfbncc » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:08 am

"We have deep concerns about the unsafe and unprofessional Russian flight maneuvers. These actions have the potential to unnecessarily escalate tensions between countries, and could result in a miscalculation or accident that could cause serious injury or death."


This is indeed diplospeak. Translated: Next time, you might not get your nice shiny jet back in one piece. Of course, the United States Navy will be eager to help with the ongoing search efforts for the pilots...

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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Old Grafton » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:22 am

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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby SoupOrMan » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:17 am

McClarkus wrote:They said, and subsequent videos showed the fighter jets to be un-armed. If someone might be so kind as to explain to me how does one know that, before its too late, I would be grateful.


Fencers have a 23mm internal gun. They're never unarmed.
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby randy » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:41 am

...even before I read MHI, my response to seeing a poster for the stars of the latest Twilight movies was "I see 2 targets and a collaborator".

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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Aesop » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:54 pm

You're all missing the bigger story:

The USN still has enough ships to send one to the Baltic! Mirabile dictu!

Whether they'll have enough fuel to get it back to a friendly port without a tow from the USCG cutter Eagle still remains to be seen.
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Rod » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:43 pm

We're really sorry about shooting down your plane but our CIWS seems to have had a computer virus. Do you want your pilots back?
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Re: Russians buzz US warship in Baltic

Postby Aesop » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:39 pm

That's not how the game is played.

Proper etiquette is to return the favor on 2-3 Soviet ships, in cold blood, then have an attack sub do an emergency blow and surface behind one of their top-tier ships just after it passes by.

This latter is the reason for the nautical term "poop deck", for the moment after the opposing captain shits his pants.

Of course, since the current sub fleet has practically installed a zampolit on every boat, it's far less likely to occur.
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