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Two Birds Down

Postby First Shirt » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:51 am

Seems that yesterday, two MH-53Es out of Kaneohe MCAS, on a routine night training flight, apparently suffered a mid-air collision. All twelve crew members are missing, and search efforts are being hampered by 30-40 foot swells along the north shore, where the debris field was spotted. Right now, SAR efforts are being carried out by Navy, Coast Guard, and Honolulu Fire Dept. assets.

Haven't heard back from my son-in-law stationed at K-Bay yet today.

If you have a spare prayer or good wish, it would sure be appreciated about now.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby Dinochrome One » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:53 am

Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

O Christ! Whose voice the waters heard
And hushed their raging at Thy word,
Who walkedst on the foaming deep,
And calm amidst its rage didst sleep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

Praying for his safety.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby Mike OTDP » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:18 am

Amen. I don't think most people understand just how dangerous military aviation can be, even in training.

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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby Darrell » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:42 am

Thirty-one years ago today my twin brother was killed flying the HH variant of the bird. The tails had a disturbing tendency of falling off.
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Postby Rumpshot » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:22 pm

What bird does Tcourtplayer fly?
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby JAG2955 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:38 pm

Rumpshot wrote:What bird does Tcourtplayer fly?


He's a SH-60 pilot, NOT a Marine (hates 'em, actually), and is stationed in San Diego.

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Postby Rumpshot » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:43 pm

Thanks. No being a Marine, does not mean he doesn't drive them around from time to time. I thought he was still in San Diego, but again he could have been deployed to Hawaii.

Glad to know that he is likely not involved.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby Denis » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:01 pm

First Shirt wrote:Haven't heard back from my son-in-law stationed at K-Bay yet today.

If you have a spare prayer or good wish, it would sure be appreciated about now.


Done! My thoughts go out to the friends and families of all those involved in the collision.

Today was a day for worrying - until about two minutes ago I was waiting on tenterhooks to hear from a close friend and his wife in Ouagadougou (Burkina Faso); there was an Al-Qa’ida attack there Friday (yesterday) night / this morning, with at least 26 killed and hundreds injured, including a "European couple". Just got word that they are safe, although nearby the action, which was in a place they frequent.

I hope you also get the all-clear soon.

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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby JAG2955 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:06 pm

Rumpshot wrote:Thanks. No being a Marine, does not mean he doesn't drive them around from time to time. I thought he was still in San Diego, but again he could have been deployed to Hawaii.

Glad to know that he is likely not involved.


I spoke with him last night. It's a Marine helicopter squadron, HMH-463.

First Shirt, is that your son-in-law's squadron?

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Postby First Shirt » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:50 pm

Heard from him a little while ago. He's been on leave this past week, which is why I hadn't heard from him earlier.

Please keep the family members in your prayers.
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Postby Denis » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:15 pm

First Shirt wrote:Heard from him a little while ago. He's been on leave this past week, which is why I hadn't heard from him earlier.

Please keep the family members in your prayers.


Thank Goodness! Willdo.

On Burkina: evidently US and French special forces are involved in suppressing the jihadis. Interesting photos at the Mail. Operators with suppressed rifles, helmet cameras and high-speed low-drag gear. Compare and contrast the French and US guys:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -Faso.html

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Postby First Shirt » Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:45 am

JAG2955 wrote:I spoke with him last night. It's a Marine helicopter squadron, HMH-463.

First Shirt, is that your son-in-law's squadron?

No, he's actually assigned to one of the MV-22 squadrons, but he seems to be the resident expert on Echos, so he's been getting loaned out a lot to the Echo squadrons, that's why I was worried.
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Postby mekender » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:24 am

Mike OTDP wrote:Amen. I don't think most people understand just how dangerous military aviation can be, even in training.


I also don't think that many people understand just how dangerous it is to get dropped into the ocean miles and miles from anywhere, even not considering an aircraft crash...

And even fewer understand how dangerous the sea can get with even small swells.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby tcourtplayer » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:50 am

JAG2955 wrote:
Rumpshot wrote:What bird does Tcourtplayer fly?


He's a SH-60 pilot, NOT a Marine (hates 'em, actually), and is stationed in San Diego.

I'm safe, though I am praying for the two crews involved.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby First Shirt » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:49 pm

SAR efforts suspended as of Tuesday night. Please keep the families of the missing in your thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby Vonz90 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:59 pm

tcourtplayer wrote:
JAG2955 wrote:
Rumpshot wrote:What bird does Tcourtplayer fly?


He's a SH-60 pilot, NOT a Marine (hates 'em, actually), and is stationed in San Diego.

I'm safe, though I am praying for the two crews involved.


Thanks for breaking away from the wardroom movie marathon to check in.

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Postby blackeagle603 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:06 pm

Hey, can't take prep for Foc'sle Follies too lightly. Careers hang on a thread.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby Langenator » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:30 pm

tcourtplayer wrote:
JAG2955 wrote:
Rumpshot wrote:What bird does Tcourtplayer fly?


He's a SH-60 pilot, NOT a Marine (hates 'em, actually), and is stationed in San Diego.

I'm safe, though I am praying for the two crews involved.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SH-60 is configured for ASW and/or SAR, not as a troop carrier like the Army's UH-60, no? My understanding is the Navy's -hawks are used quite differently from the Army's.
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Re: Two Birds Down

Postby tcourtplayer » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:57 am

Langenator wrote:
tcourtplayer wrote:
JAG2955 wrote:
Rumpshot wrote:What bird does Tcourtplayer fly?


He's a SH-60 pilot, NOT a Marine (hates 'em, actually), and is stationed in San Diego.

I'm safe, though I am praying for the two crews involved.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SH-60 is configured for ASW and/or SAR, not as a troop carrier like the Army's UH-60, no? My understanding is the Navy's -hawks are used quite differently from the Army's.

The Navy has two variants. One is basically a grey Blackhawk (the Siera) and the ASW version that I fly, the Romeo. Also the new ones are MH-60 (R/S designations reactively). The S is utility and "gun" platform while the R I fly is the ASW/SUW primarily used for strike group defense. Both have their crews trained in SAR because, well we are the Navy and need to.
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