Airforce to do away with the rifle detail at funerals

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Airforce to do away with the rifle detail at funerals

Post by Wrenchbender1 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:02 am

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Re: Airforce to do away with the rifle detail at funerals

Post by PawPaw » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:48 am

If it's true, it's a damned shame.
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Post by Netpackrat » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:09 am

The comments seem to tell the whole story better than the article does.
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Re: Airforce to do away with the rifle detail at funerals

Post by Cobar » Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:57 pm

I always thought it was the 3 volleys mentioned in the comments. When my wife's uncle passed in 2003 IIRC the Legion did the honors and it was 3 rifles, 3 volleys.

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Post by g-man » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:18 pm

Yet another log on the funeral pyre of AF leadership.
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Post by Aesop » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:12 pm

g-man wrote:Yet another log on the funeral pyre of AF [strike]leadership[/strike] management.
FIFY

They've missed a golden opportunity:

"Effective Jan 1st, all USAF military funerals have featured a Missing Man flyover by F-35s instead of a graveside rifle honors detail."
"I was at a funeral last week, and I didn't see any such flyover."
"See how well the F-35's stealth systems work?!"
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Post by toad » Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:00 pm

I was watching a you tube video on the P38 in the Pacific war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCapVFcVR1o
Those pilots, mechanics, and other support , CB's in particular, had a long hard war. With OJT on how to use the P-38 to best advantage. One thing that struck me was an old pilot saying they learned not to fight the Japanese but to kill them. They'd form up and when they saw Japanese aircraft they'd make a high speed pass through them shooting everyone they could get in their gun sights and try to keep at least a two man formation, then after they got through the japs, they'd form up and come at them again, and again, and again.
I'm afraid politically it will come to that here. It may be useless trying to fight the parasites, we may just have to kill them.

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Post by Dinochrome One » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:30 pm

Cobar wrote:I always thought it was the 3 volleys mentioned in the comments. When my wife's uncle passed in 2003 IIRC the Legion did the honors and it was 3 rifles, 3 volleys.
That's how we've been doing it for years at the VFW; three M1 Garands, three volleys. Present Arms, Taps is played on the electronic trumpet, the flag is folded by the uniformed military detail, and then we mill around picking up the empty cartridge-cases. We don't even have seven rifles.
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Post by Old Grafton » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:54 am

Don't think for a minute this is unplanned. Some caack in the chain of command decided this is a way to make the public squeal in indignation to bring heat on Congress and the Senate to give the Air force back its' slush money.
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Post by skb12172 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:30 am

toad wrote:I was watching a you tube video on the P38 in the Pacific war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCapVFcVR1o
Those pilots, mechanics, and other support , CB's in particular, had a long hard war. With OJT on how to use the P-38 to best advantage. One thing that struck me was an old pilot saying they learned not to fight the Japanese but to kill them. They'd form up and when they saw Japanese aircraft they'd make a high speed pass through them shooting everyone they could get in their gun sights and try to keep at least a two man formation, then after they got through the japs, they'd form up and come at them again, and again, and again.
I'm afraid politically it will come to that here. It may be useless trying to fight the parasites, we may just have to kill them.
Isn't that what happened in Argentina?
There must be an end to this intimidation by those who come to this great country, but reject its culture.

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