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evan price wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:51 pm Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania are direct border countries also nato members.
Left them alone.
Poland and Romania should be really worried right now.
Taiwan more so.
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Vonz90 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:19 pm
blackeagle603 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:06 pm
Now they want the Ukraine RIGHT ON RUSSIA's border in NATO. And today Russia is saying "Oh, no you're not."
Yeah, that was never going to be acceptable to Russia.

It's like these "representatives" of ours never read a history book, heard of Napolean or have any understanding of the phrase "Geography is destiny."
So Russia has occupied and brutalized these places for hundreds of years and want to keep doing it, so you want to give them a veto on those places attempts to protect themselves. Interesting, but I cannot say I agree.
I agree.

And it's not like Russians don't already have a deep understanding of the value of promises you can't or won't enforce.
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evan price wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:51 pm Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania are direct border countries also nato members.
Left them alone.
Poland and Romania should be really worried right now.
Poland is in NATO
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evan price wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:51 pm Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania are direct border countries also nato members.
Left them alone.
Poland and Romania should be really worried right now.
They went after Ukraine because they want a warm water port with access to the Atlantic. They've basically siezed control of Tamman bay for at least a year.
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evan price wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:51 pm Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania are direct border countries also nato members.
Left them alone.
Poland and Romania should be really worried right now.
Dimona should be getting a lot of phone calls about now.
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Germany has apparently lifted weapons export restrictions to Ukraine and may be agreeing to cut Russia from SWIFT. Apparently Hungary and Italy are still on the fence.

I.would include a link, but after a brief respite, I cannot post links again.
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A guy I work with observed today that Putin's recent actions are consistent with somebody who is terminally ill and therefore no longer gives a fuck. He's always been an evil douchebag, but lately it's like he's snapped completely.
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Netpackrat wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:28 pm A guy I work with observed today that Putin's recent actions are consistent with somebody who is terminally ill and therefore no longer gives a fuck. He's always been an evil douchebag, but lately it's like he's snapped completely.
That tracks with some things I've been hearing from various folks that worked in the diplomatic community. "He's not the Putin I knew".

Given he's KGB, it's quite possible the "Putin they knew" was never the real Putin, but it is possible they are on to something.
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Vonz90 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:00 am
evan price wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:51 pm Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania are direct border countries also nato members.
Left them alone.
Poland and Romania should be really worried right now.
Poland is in NATO
So Putin takes Ukraine.
Now Poland and Romania are on the new borders.
"I won't have Nato members on my borders"
Rinse and repeat.
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In other news, the dementia patient, in light of the growing energy crisis due to the Russia/Ukraine conflict, makes a command decision.. and Cancels all new oil and gas leases.. :shock:

https://apnews.com/article/climate-busi ... 11ff5f8026

Its like they take any given situation, and ask themselves "how can we make this worse?"
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