Bill Whittle: The Stolen Election, Part 1: AMERICAN PRAVDA

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Bill Whittle: The Stolen Election, Part 1: AMERICAN PRAVDA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7hqtcn ... e=youtu.be

Go take a look, before YouTube takes it down.
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I guess you can believe some shithead never trumper, or you can believe your own eyes.
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Re: Bill Whittle: The Stolen Election, Part 1: AMERICAN PRAVDA

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Netpackrat wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:42 pm I guess you can believe some shithead never trumper, or you can believe your own eyes.
Ad hominem a bit maybe, what part of his data is wrong?

I believe the data, and the data says the outcome was not changed by fraud.

This does not mean that fraud did not occur BTW, It means it did not change the outcome of the election. I hope the lawsuits proceed and I would particularly like the clowns in PA to get smacked down for precedence if nothing else.
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Yes, the election was stolen. It was stolen before the first vote was counted. Between BHO and Soros, every major city Attorney General and Federal Court Judge was picked for the right politics. They made sure that only the "right" election cases went forward and the "wrong" election cases were brushed aside.

Watch what happens to the Hunter Biden child porn case. It's all Russian meddling... Nothing to see here... move along...

If no attorney in Delaware brings charges, then no case. It's over...

Until the pitchforks come out...

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D5CAV wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:29 am Until the pitchforks come out...
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Vonz90 wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:01 pm
Netpackrat wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:42 pm I guess you can believe some shithead never trumper, or you can believe your own eyes.
Ad hominem a bit maybe, what part of his data is wrong?

I believe the data, and the data says the outcome was not changed by fraud.

This does not mean that fraud did not occur BTW, It means it did not change the outcome of the election. I hope the lawsuits proceed and I would particularly like the clowns in PA to get smacked down for precedence if nothing else.
I don't really have time to dig everything up.... He doesn't so much have data as excuses. He also cherry picks - sometimes he looks at percentages, sometimes he looks at turnout, he never considers both combined which is important because the numbers he does provide are never put into context. They are never compared with results from other areas, either directly adjacent or demographically similar, that are NOT known for cheating.

In a wider context, Trump outperformed his prior result in all demographics but white males. In particular his performance with minorities was astonishingly good for a Republican.

These counties may not look too shady in isolation (that's his schtick here) but when you compare their results to neighboring areas, and to what would seem demographically similar areas elsewhere things look....different.

Also, notice that in many of these areas Biden drastically outperformed Obama, when you look closely. Not necessarily in percentage, but definitely in vote count. Those areas have stunningly high turnout, which he handwaved. Enthusiasm for Biden? Right.

Equalizer the percentages and turnout with similar surrounding areas, and it suddenly looks like vast ballot box stuffing to produce what we see.

There are also the things he completely refuses to talk about, like The Pause. Multiple battleground stars all breaking for Trump ALL 'stop counting' at once. And then how many Biden ballots appear there?

He also handwaved away lawsuits. The PA ones are particularly serious, setting the stage for the Supreme Court to officially take notice of states unilaterally changing election law midway and then ignoring court orders. This is a new thing, and the usual "lawsuits never do anything cause we've always just surrendered before" would seem to not apply.

He chooses to handwave away the electronic fraud aspect, and I'm not sure how he justifies that. Just in one location a check for 4 missing votes found a 12k vote discrepancy, and that's only the one place that was definitively checked . 'No evidence of other fraud cause we haven't looked, and we haven't looked cause there's no other evidence of fraud' is very helpfully circular, and that might not fly this year.

The other stuff, like Republican observers being ejected from counting locations, shipments of ballots mysteriously appearing in places, postmasters back dating shipments of ballots... That is all ignored. Apparently it's just par for the course, these things happen, can't quantify them so we'll ignore them.

This is preemptive surrender excuse making, with a gloss of plausibility undercut by lack of context, way too many unjustified assumptions, and a suspicious unwillingness to mention certain things at all.
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Vonz90 wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:01 pm
Netpackrat wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:42 pm I guess you can believe some shithead never trumper, or you can believe your own eyes.
Ad hominem a bit maybe, what part of his data is wrong?

I believe the data, and the data says the outcome was not changed by fraud.

This does not mean that fraud did not occur BTW, It means it did not change the outcome of the election. I hope the lawsuits proceed and I would particularly like the clowns in PA to get smacked down for precedence if nothing else.
I don't really have time to dig everything up.... He doesn't so much have data as excuses. He also cherry picks - sometimes he looks at percentages, sometimes he looks at turnout, he never considers both combined which is important because the numbers he does provide are never put into context. They are never compared with results from other areas, either directly adjacent or demographically similar, that are NOT known for cheating.

In a wider context, Trump outperformed his prior result in all demographics but white males. In particular his performance with minorities was astonishingly good for a Republican.

These counties may not look too shady in isolation (that's his schtick here) but when you compare their results to neighboring areas, and to what would seem demographically similar areas elsewhere things look....different.

Also, notice that in many of these areas Biden drastically outperformed Obama, when you look closely. Not necessarily in percentage, but definitely in vote count. Those areas have stunningly high turnout, which he handwaved. Enthusiasm for Biden? Right.

Equalizer the percentages and turnout with similar surrounding areas, and it suddenly looks like vast ballot box stuffing to produce what we see.

There are also the things he completely refuses to talk about, like The Pause. Multiple battleground states all breaking for Trump ALL 'stop counting' at once. And then how many Biden ballots appear there?

He also handwaved away lawsuits. The PA ones are particularly serious, setting the stage for the Supreme Court to officially take notice of states unilaterally changing election law (and not legislatures mind you, but a few judges and executive branch officials..) midway and then ignoring court orders. This is a new thing, and the usual "lawsuits never do anything cause we've always just surrendered before" would seem to not apply.

He chooses to handwave away the electronic fraud aspect, and I'm not sure how he justifies that. Just in one location a check for 4 missing votes found a 12k vote discrepancy, and that's only the one place that was definitively checked . 'No evidence of other fraud cause we haven't looked, and we haven't looked cause there's no other evidence of fraud' is very helpfully circular, and that might not fly this year.

The other stuff, like Republican observers being ejected from counting locations, shipments of ballots mysteriously appearing in places, postmasters back dating shipments of ballots... That is all ignored. Apparently it's just par for the course, these things happen, can't quantify them so we'll ignore them.

This is preemptive surrender excuse making, with a gloss of plausibility undercut by lack of context, way too many unjustified assumptions, and a suspicious unwillingness to mention certain things at all.
Last edited by Greg on Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
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He's been posting and linking to a lot of other data, too. County level breakdowns comparing the suspicious ones against controls in a couple of different ways is eye opening.

The only way his victory is remotely plausible is if you're willing to accept the author of the 94 crime bill, who didn't campaign and the few times he tried nobody showed up, inspired but only in a few crucial locations *enormously* greater voter enthusiasm, among minorities, than Obama.

And that's ignoring all the other shenanigans.

They may pull this off. If they do, this blatantly, why would they ever let a Republican win a national election again? They've shown that a few corrupt metroplexes can churn out enough votes to make sure the rubes' votes never matter again. That's very frightening.

And Biden isn't even bothering to make placating noises, like 'let me have this one and I've got your back you can trust me' or something. It's all doubling down in your face shit. If his Fraudulence gets sworn in they'll never see a reason to hold back their boot from whatever face they choose, short of CW 2.0
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